40kenthusiast wrote:You gotta try out the Soul Devourer at least once (though it seems like folks'd just flee and get run down, rather than let you charge up.) Let me know how it goes.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:Torment Blade - Gives you an extra attack because it counts as an extra hand weapon, and is only 5 points. Oh, it also does something about them needing a LD test to attack you after you do a wound to the model you're fighting. That doesn't even factor into taking this after the FAQ came out and let it give you +1 Attack as well.

Negativemoney wrote:

Voodoo Boyz wrote:Torment Blade - Gives you an extra attack because it counts as an extra hand weapon, and is only 5 points. Oh, it also does something about them needing a LD test to attack you after you do a wound to the model you're fighting. That doesn't even factor into taking this after the FAQ came out and let it give you +1 Attack as well.

While correct you need to be careful when arguing this. It is not an extra hand weapon it is however a second hand weapon. Arguing as an extra or additional will get you in trouble and you need to argue as if it is in fact a second hand weapon.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Siren Song - So you can get into combat and avoid shooting

Agreed this is a must for the keeper, but be very careful when using it because if your opponents flee game over (Unless that was the intention) Also remeber that they still need to take psychology tests as normal. Also with the FAQ ItP and Unbreakable units MUST charge and cannot chose to flee.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Soporific Musk - So you can definitely catch things that run away from you (this is an arguable one what with all those Daemon and VC armies you can plan on fighting at a tourney)

If you waist point on the ability for your keeper you are a fool. There is almost no benefit to having this. If you keeper is not the only movement 7+ model in base with a large unit he will not be winning combat that easily. Better leave this one at home.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Allure - Arguable, but it can stop things from attacking you especially if you take the Banner of Dispair (-2 LD to all within 12") and the Masque. Probably best combined with the Enrapturing Gaze

This is a MUST! a keeper without this is a dead keeper when it comes to other power characters and Big Fat Daemons. Never leave this one at home.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Enrapturing Gaze - If you take Allure, it helps

No it realy doesn't. the FAQ nerfed this ability as it only effects models in BtB the unit as a whole can still test on their base leadership or that of the Generals. It is now a complete waste of a power.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
You can't combine them all, so I'd recommend: Torment Blade, Siren, Allure, Enrapturing Gaze

The missing ability that I have now found as a Key item is Soul hunger. Since changing Enrapturing Gaze for it I have had much better preformance in combats against larger monsters as well as units. I now swear by this ability.

They way I like to see my Kipper kitted out is as follows.
lvl 4 w/ Torment Blade, Soul Hunger, Allure and Sirens Song. This is the optimal build for the keeper right now.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:
Oh and a cup, for when your opponent wants to kick you square in the nuts.

He still needs to pass a leadership test to do that though.

40kenthusiast wrote:
KOS: March forward/orient on target unit, get close enough that if they flee you'll catch them.
Enemy: Shoot KOS w/war machines, characters evacuate target unit, target unit moves right up in KOS's face.
KOS: Charge target unit, it flees, you run through it, hit back of board (can't get off since not pursueing.)
Enemy: Shoot KOS w/war machines, kill

If you let this happen to you then you are in serious needs of learning the fundamentals of not only Warhammer but of the Slaanesh army.

The truth of the matter is under no circumstance should you put you self into a position where you will be shot up by anything. If you do than its your own mistake. Remember that when playing Slaanesh you have the ability to control the entire game and you need to use that ability to your advantage.

Furies and Fiends are the best answers to Warmachines and I would hope every Slaanesh list out there includes at least a single fiend and 2 units of Furies.

Voodoo Boyz wrote:VC bring an incredible magic phase, but their characters generally don't have room to buy scrolls, so they have dice but generally not any scrolls.

The thing you can do with Slaanesh is to force the dice out since your level 1's can spam out the Stupidity spell on his other units, which should soak up dice from him trying to stop it, and then you go for the bigger spells off the KoS.

shaselai wrote:Is it fine to put like 1100 points in characters?