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and if so what store you gonna be playing at


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well.. 5% chance of playing you each round...

*sigh*

its a pretty right spiffy list against most armies.

looks to be a challenging event.

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concerning the LR list

if you depstrike your toast..

4 mystics getting to roll 4d6, then nominate anything with 12" to wail on you.

thats up to 4 free units firing at you before you can do anything. it is truly a daemon hunter list.

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daemon players will not be enjoying this.. nor drop IG]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403570.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403570.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
However, I think you'll see a good number of people maxing their list to fight what they believe is the inevitable flood of seven Land Raider lists. I know one guy who's looking at a list with something like 16 lascannons for example. That's one reason I'm not taking my tri-Monolith list. Three Monoliths just won't stand up to a list designed to deal with seven Land Raiders.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403582.page GMT Re:Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list

I would be surprised if more the 2 out of the 40 at lakewood show up with it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403593.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403593.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list SM army]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403641.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403641.page GMT Re:Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403663.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
JD21290 wrote:not interested in running it, but if anyone in the general london area runs it then PM me, im interested in finding out how hard this army is to beat.


Um...'Ard Boyz is US only...or do you just mean how hard is it to beat in general? How many 2500 point games do you play? You can't cram all seven LR's in at less than 2500.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403693.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
whitedragon wrote:You can't cram all seven LR's in at less than 2500.


Sure you can. You just take smaller Inquisitorial Retinues, only two units of Storm Troopers, and drop the Grey Knight Grand Master.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403706.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list hq to be able to take the land raiders as heavy support]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403712.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
odinsspear45 wrote:anyone seriously thinking about running it?

and if so what store you gonna be playing at




What does the list look like? I have no ideal what you are referring to, but I would like to know. Thanks kind sir.............]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403738.page GMT Re:Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403750.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
rcm2216 wrote:
odinsspear45 wrote:anyone seriously thinking about running it?

and if so what store you gonna be playing at




What does the list look like? I have no ideal what you are referring to, but I would like to know. Thanks kind sir.............


here is a link to the thread with the Army in it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/217981.page]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403751.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
fussellg wrote:
rcm2216 wrote:
odinsspear45 wrote:anyone seriously thinking about running it?

and if so what store you gonna be playing at




What does the list look like? I have no ideal what you are referring to, but I would like to know. Thanks kind sir.............


here is a link to the thread with the Army in it.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/217981.page


Ohhhh I see it for myself now, awesome list. It is list like these that cause codecies to get nerfed by GW when certain builds are deemed to powerful and out of balance (I did not say cheesy, just to cookie cutter). It seems like GW is trying to attack certain builds to influence play somewhat. I have no problem with it and believe I could beat it with my list containing 9 bright lances in it with the right strategy and matching scenario. I like the set up and challenge.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403761.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/403853.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
rcm2216 wrote:
Ohhhh I see it for myself now, awesome list. It is list like these that cause codecies to get nerfed by GW when certain builds are deemed to powerful and out of balance (I did not say cheesy, just to cookie cutter). It seems like GW is trying to attack certain builds to influence play somewhat. I have no problem with it and believe I could beat it with my list containing 9 bright lances in it with the right strategy and matching scenario. I like the set up and challenge.

Nine Bright Lances are not enough, you drop one if your lucky on the first turn and then they're on top of you. And they do nothing to Black Templar Land Raiders.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404013.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list 4 hit 2 glance/ pen 1 gets through cover save
9 bright lances are not enough.

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I haven't played LR spam since 5th, and they math out a little harder to pop this time. Good luck opponents of this list, especially the dude with 9 Brightlances. You'll need, bud.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404574.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list get more killpoints which four of the land raiders are worthless, but provide good cover to your crusaders.
mission 2 contest objectives tank shock guys off objectives .
mission 3 hold your objective get more kill points.

it comes down that killing 7 land raiders is hard. and it can kill enough of your stuff to win. massacres are hard.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404577.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404577.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
skkipper wrote:9 bright lances
4 hit 2 glance/ pen 1 gets through cover save
9 bright lances are not enough.



I was going to post something, but decided not to for clandestine reasons. There is always a weakness to every list that can be exploited. Most will be intimidated by a list of seven land raiders before the game even starts because they will not have enough to take all of them down. However, any get strategist would use tactics to at least make it a good game. I did the same thing in the first round. I beat a NID player playing the eight big Nidzilla creatures all load with stranglers with three full squads of gaunts and genestealers. Most opponents got ran over. I was bold enough to tell one of his opponents that he could have won if he would have not panicked and shot the wrong targets ( I told him after his game when he asked me how could I beat that list, that he considered unbeatable). I applied the same tactics I advised him of and won. My opponent admitted that he had lost games before, so even he was aware of weaknesses within his army list. I have my own weakness as well.

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That makes sense just seems a heavy weapon geared army or something that has good anti tank would hurt it.


Hell Drop poding Tactical Squads with Meltas or Waveserpent Fire Dragons seem to be pretty hard on it.





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skkipper wrote:deepstriking? the list loves deepstrikers thanks to the 4 inquistors with mystics



Just center a drop pod on top of the tank. sure its gonna scatter

Locator beacons help that though.

I played some guy that had 4 landraiders and blew them all up. I just don't understand how it wins I would have to see a game played. It just seems that it has to few a number of models to not be overwhelmed with firepower.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404687.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404687.page GMT Re:Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404697.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list which on are you more likely to see?
which one are you going to slant your list too?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404698.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
Um...'Ard Boyz is US only...or do you just mean how hard is it to beat in general? How many 2500 point games do you play? You can't cram all seven LR's in at less than 2500.


i mean in any games.
im good for up to 5k point games currently, might be able to push a little more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404700.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404700.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
skkipper wrote:the problem comes in the list that work over 7 land raiders don't handle 200+ orks very well.
which on are you more likely to see?
which one are you going to slant your list too?


load bright lance mounted wave serpents with bladestorming dire avengers and fire dragons with an exarch with a crack shot heavy flamer. a miscellanious jetbike squad and guardian squad with a scatter laser deploying out of a wave serpent ain't to bad. I forgot the scatter laser mounted war walker squad as well. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404703.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404719.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404719.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
Moz wrote:Please everyone bring 7 landraider lists. I dearly hope that you all continue listening to Stelek's dubious advice, and I hope to face you in every single round of this event.


You seem pretty confident, what would your list vs. the 7LR be?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404772.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list LR army. It works against other "gimmicks".


I dont know what the whole deal with it honestly is. I mean do you still win a round if you are wiped out but you claim more victory points than your opponent?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404803.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
skkipper wrote:the problem comes in the list that work over 7 land raiders don't handle 200+ orks very well.
which on are you more likely to see?
which one are you going to slant your list too?


Mounted Sisters are awesome against both lists....with a single build.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/404809.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
Deadshane1 wrote:
skkipper wrote:the problem comes in the list that work over 7 land raiders don't handle 200+ orks very well.
which on are you more likely to see?
which one are you going to slant your list too?


Mounted Sisters are awesome against both lists....with a single build.


Which doesn't tell us the build now does it?

I find it interesting that this army is around and ALOT of people ahve forces tailored to beat it, not because they are expecting to face it but because they are expecting to face it, MECH anything and Nidzilla Armies, where a normal force maxed for anti-armour is also maxed for anti-MC. The 200+ Ork hoard is damned nasty, but then so is any hoard army of over 200 models. It's 2,500pts, Nid's would have a field day, same with guard at that many points hoard wise. Anyways...lost my train of thought.

Auretious Taak.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406038.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
ferrous wrote:
Moz wrote:Please everyone bring 7 landraider lists. I dearly hope that you all continue listening to Stelek's dubious advice, and I hope to face you in every single round of this event.


You seem pretty confident, what would your list vs. the 7LR be?


I figure my chances would be best with my battlewagon orks that are, in my opinion, the end of competitive gaming in 40k. Course, I haven't faced the 7 LR list either so it could take me completely by surprise. But I did face an armored company with 2 Landraiders and 8 Leman russes in round one of the semi-finals without much issue at all. One raider got rolled over by a wagon, which then disembarked a nob team to multicharge the contents and a nearby russ, killing them both. 2nd landraider got a battlewagon full of orks to the face and fell to the first round of klaw attacks. I figure vs. 7 LR spam I would just drive into them, if D6 S10 hits doesn't do it, the 4 S9 klaw attacks from the boarding plank probably will. If they don't, the grabbin klaw means there's a 50% chance you're hanging in the wind next turn while I do it again. Run that against the chances that in 2 turns of firing the pitiful amount of shooting the 7 LR list can throw out will do anything the the wagons.

Enter stelek bravado statements of 'Just kill the wagons, it's easy'. Yeah I lost 4 wagons over the course of the semi-finals (one of them was even worth KP!), tell my opponents it's easy.

Barring the orks, I guess the dark eldar list I was considering with 18 dark lances and 16 haywire grenades would be fine too. (Yes it has plenty of goodies for Hordes too, probably no good against 200+ orks though - what is?)
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Moz wrote:
ferrous wrote:
Moz wrote:Please everyone bring 7 landraider lists. I dearly hope that you all continue listening to Stelek's dubious advice, and I hope to face you in every single round of this event.


You seem pretty confident, what would your list vs. the 7LR be?


Enter stelek bravado statements of 'Just kill the wagons, it's easy'. Yeah I lost 4 wagons over the course of the semi-finals (one of them was even worth KP!), tell my opponents it's easy.

Barring the orks, I guess the dark eldar list I was considering with 18 dark lances and 16 haywire grenades would be fine too. (Yes it has plenty of goodies for Hordes too, probably no good against 200+ orks though - what is?)


What is? Dark Eldar Foot force.

120 Dark Eldar Warriors, 2 Dark Lances, 2 Blasters. there's half your points gone, now for the fun part, lol.

I like the concept for this list Moz, have you posted it up somewhere for review or are you keeping it to yourself till after 'ard Boyz?

I also like your statement of 'stelek bravo statements' lol.

Auretious Taak.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406681.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
Moz wrote:
ferrous wrote:
Moz wrote:Please everyone bring 7 landraider lists. I dearly hope that you all continue listening to Stelek's dubious advice, and I hope to face you in every single round of this event.


You seem pretty confident, what would your list vs. the 7LR be?

*...snip...* I figure vs. 7 LR spam I would just drive into them, if D6 S10 hits doesn't do it, the 4 S9 klaw attacks from the boarding plank probably will. *....snip
Enter stelek bravado statements of 'Just kill the wagons, it's easy'. Yeah I lost 4 wagons over the course of the semi-finals (one of them was even worth KP!), tell my opponents it's easy.

I'd be surprised if the SM player let you ram with a deff rolla without forcing a judge to rule on it. There's an 8+ page thread in this forum on ramming vs. tankshocking with a deff rolla.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406888.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/219969/406992.page GMT Ard Boyz and Steleks DH LR list
Mech Eldar can't put out quite as many lances as Dark Eldar but they do have the jetbike seer council which is good for busting both land raiders and killing orks. 3 Fire Prisms provide templates for killing hordes.

Sisters with alot of meltas and flamers with vehicles for delivery sounds good against land raiders and hordes as well.
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