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				<description><![CDATA[ Right, so i played a game on tuesday night against a different opponent than usual (i'd expected eldar) and to my surprise he had a fantastically painted tau army; i'd never played against them before and thought that it would be fun. we played 1750 points each and i got <b>absoulutely massacred</b>.<br /> <br /> in summary: i destroyed a Hammerhead and a squad of Pathfinders and he pulverised everything of mine <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> heres my close combat-themed list<br /> <br /> <u><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></u><br /> 1x Avatar of Khaine, the wrath of Sphynx and Scourge of Iyanden (sorry bit carried away)        155<br /> <u>E</u><br /> 5x Wraithguard; w/spiritseer (enhance, singing spear)                                                             224<br /> 6x Striking Scorpions; w/exarch (biting blade, Shadowstrike)                                                   133<br /> <u>T</u><br /> 10x Storm Guardians; w/flamer, fusion, spiritseer (enhance, singing spear)                               141<br /> 12x Defender Guardians; w/brightlance platform, spiritseer (singing spear)                               160<br /> 8x Dire Avengers; w/exarch (shimmer shield and power weapon, defend, bladestorm)               153<br /> 8x Dire Avengers; w/exarch (shuriken pistol and dire sword, defend, bladestorm)                      148<br /> <u><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span></u><br /> 1x Wraithlord; w/shuriken cannon, flamer, shuriken catapult, (wraithblade)                                110<br /> 1x Wraithlord; w/twin linked brightlances, flamer, flamer, (wraithblade)                                     180<br /> 1x Fire Prism; w/ shuriken cannon (holofields, spirit stones,)                                                     170<br /> <u>TRANSPORT</u><br /> 1x Wave Serpent; w/ twinlinked eldar missile launchers, shuriken cannon, (vectored<br /> engines, star engines, spiritstones[for the storm guardians])                                                     175<br />                                                                                                                                         ---------<br />                                                                                                                                        <b>1749</b><br /> <br /> <b>how do i destroy tau with eldar? i need help. ill update with all my units if anyone feels nice enough to make me a list <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"></b>]]></description>
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				<title>Total Iyanden annihilation at the hands of T'au. HELP ME!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Sadly, your army is a pretty good one for Tau to face. The Scorpions are quite an isolated unit for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>HTH</span>, and are likely to get shot down quickly. Wraithlords and Wraithguard will always suffer against Tau due to the sheer number of S5 shots they can put out somewhat negating the benefits of their high Toughness.<br /> <br /> I think, unfortunately, it's the way you've done your list. Getting into a shooting match with Tau, unless using Tau yourself is never a great idea, for obvious reasons, and sadly that seems to be your main option with this list. The Storm Guardians are probably his main worry, as mounted in the WaveSerpent, are swift and expendable enough to make a mess of his lines.<br /> <br /> I think your Avatar is the main weakness here. Slow and somewhat ponderous for Eldar, he is easy meat for the Tau guns, whereas a Farseer can enjoy the protection of unit, and his psychic powers ought to prove very useful. For example, using Guide and Doom can beat the Tau at their own game, or at the very least allow you to really capitalise if you catch his suits in a bad position.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Mad Doc Grotsnik]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Eldar do not like tau. Eldar really like maneuverability, but for an army that really doesn't move all that much, speed and agility will not help you, unless you can break their battle line. You can do this with any infiltrating units. <br /> <br /> Mass them on one flank. He reforms his line to kill your infiltrators, to do this he will have to move. Even if he is really good at movement/positioning, his movement will give you the opportunity to use speed to your advantage. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Infiltrators are fairly weak against Tau though. Nippy as they may well be, the tendancy they have to be lightly armoured makes them natural prey for any model of Battlesuits, barring of course Broadsides.<br /> <br /> Add in the copious amounts of no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> required <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(388);'>SMS</span>, and Infiltrators will find themselves cut to ribbons before long, with no need for the Tau player to alter his firebase. <br /> <br /> And of course, there is always the utterly disposable Kroot to throw at them if need be.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Total Iyanden annihilation at the hands of T'au. HELP ME!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ hmm interesting. should i use my 14 rangers and 3 warwalkers next time?<br /> <br /> ahh infilrtration! so obvious!<br /> <br /> thanks. keep em comin!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:32:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Total Iyanden annihilation at the hands of T'au. HELP ME!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You have a few issues of concern.  Your Avatar is big, moderately scary, and slow.  Are to absolutely in love with this guy, or do you think you could consider going with the Autarch of Iyanden, Prince Yriel?  He's quite different from the Avatar, doesn't scream "SHOOT <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> ME" when he's on the field, and can fit in a transport, all while still being a beast of a close-combat expert.  His Eye of Wrath can butcher quite a few Kroot or Fire Warriors, too.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also, nothing breaks up a tau fire fest like deep strike units, I don't know the new eldar codex so I'm keeping my comments general. However, I agree with the general consensus about the Avatar. I think that more striking scorpions would be better.<br /> <br /> Do you have any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> infiltrators? Or guys that could kill tanks... or the farseer?<br /> <br /> Ok... so... if your opponent deploys along the board edge, infiltrate within range of the farseer. Then shoot him dead. If tau still have that rule where they have to retreat <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span>" whenever the farseer dies, then you've killed about half his army. (I loved that trick in the old codex hehe...)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:39:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shrike78]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Again, deepstriking units aren't all that and a bag of potato chips against Tau. Useful, yes, but in a limited way.<br /> <br /> It's always been my experience that anyone deepstriking against Tau soon gets shredded by lots of rapidfire Pulse Weapons, essentially giving the Tau a free kill. However, if you are ruthless enough, you can use this to cover your advance for a turn, as most guns will be used to molest the newly arrived unit before it can return the favour to the Tau units,]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Exactly]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:01:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Total Iyanden annihilation at the hands of T'au. HELP ME!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Tau are asy to annoy... everyone's suggestions hav ebeen pretty much spot on. The thing with Eldar is that farseers are almost mandatory. They add so much to the list in terms of being able to guarantee that you can (when you absolutely have to) kill that must die unit. Also, the Tau have no way to counter his psychic powers.<br /> <br /> The next is fairly obvious...<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>. Tau stink at it. Get some even mildly decent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>HTH</span> units into combat and you will disrupt the heck out of his line. Even storm guardians an do this for you.<br /> <br /> ender502]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Total Iyanden annihilation at the hands of T'au. HELP ME!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ when you say farseer you mean the Ethereal right?<br /> <br /> well, i'll revist my list :s]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>LOL</span>... oops.... sorry. And yes I do mean ethereal <br /> <br /> (shame)]]></description>
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