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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, so this is a different request. This army is going to be going against <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/221011.page" target="_new" rel="nofollow">this list</a> (the 1k one). Basically I'm playing orks, but I got the marines from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(505);'>AoBR</span> set and I wanna make a list that can give a good fight, so I can have something I can give my non-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> friends to play with when they come over.<br /> <br /> I'm thinking:<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>1000 wrote:</cite><br /> Cassius - [125]<br /> 3 Tactical Squads (10) (Missile Launcher, Flamer, Chainsword) - [510]<br /> 1 Scout Squad (5) (Sniper Rifles, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>) - [85]<br /> 2 Ironclad Dreadnoughts (Melta/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>) - [280]</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'll just get the sniper box and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> bit and that's it. Mod the captain, or heck, just a count as. How would it fare? You think it would do ok? Would it be too weak or too strong (both are bad, wanna have fun with me mates) against the ork list?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you really need something like a land raider redeemer in there since he cant hurt it <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> failing that a unit of devistators with 4 heavy bolters would work well.<br /> landspeeder tornado's would work well, and are fairly cheap.<br /> thunderfire would work pretty well too.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think you quite got it. I need a cheap marine list that can fare well against the specific ork list, without it being a one sided battle for ANY of those lists. The marine list is just a thing a friend will pick up for a quick game, or say, I wanna introduce someone to the game.<br /> <br /> - Land Raider? Expensive!<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> Tornado? $30 and Loota please?<br /> - Thunderfire? $45... U srs? There're Lootas and Kommandos going around.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:07:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok, your budget?<br /> most things you add to a list tend to add a fair price.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:10:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i would just go with one dread and buy some fast attack maybe assult marines other wise it looks good and maybe get a rhino if you can for one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:10:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deathmachine]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ JD: Well, I'm trying not to go over $30 on a single box unless it's really going to make a difference. What I meant is, yes, I could buy 2 boxes of Assault Squad, but a single Rhino? eh &gt;_&gt;<br /> <br /> I was looking more into options and maybe changing some units.<br /> <br /> Although the real question is, is that list I wrote gonna get crushed by the ork list?<br /> <br /> Deathmachine: yeah, if I take out a dread and the scout squad I could fit 10 assault marines (and a flamer).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:27:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 2orky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok, breaking budget a little, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>bt</span> a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad are allways worth taking.<br /> <br /> sniper scouts will work well against lootas (make sure lootas have something else to shoot at though)<br /> <br /> or, even a vindicator or whirlwind, both willwork very well.<br /> <br /> <br /> a solid gunline setupwould favour you, but you will never kill all of the orks beforethey get into combat, best off shooting down units so they become alotless numerous.<br /> <br /> a good trick is to shoot a unit of ork boyz untill under 11 models, then hit them with snipers, hope you pin them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:31:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ the reason i said rhino is it might be more fun to your friend to have a tank even if its just a rhino. or maybe a razorback]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:33:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deathmachine]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1k Smurfs vs Orks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, I came out with the snipers to <img src="/s/i/a/7ae18ba11c7ba79f6898e876a4b8ba4a.gif" border="0"> up the lootas so they leave the dreads alone (if they don't die 1st that is). And the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> is blast so it's nice. $25 I feel is a good investment cuz I'm not really gonna play this army.<br /> <br /> Mmmm, Vindicator...  <img src="/s/i/a/98211dee9c461fcb24c29d4004f43f7f.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:54:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 2orky]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ an ironclad is pretty safe aginst lootas for a turn, but anymore and its dead.<br /> just give him some tempting targets.<br /> and a vindi would be amusing when it drops pie plates on the lootas each turn <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:56:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1k Smurfs vs Orks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright... devastators are relatively cheap and quite effective.<br /> <br /> Get two boxes of devastators and 1 box of tacticals.<br /> <br /> You will get enough weapons to outfit two devastator squads...<br /> <br /> Skip the sniper box.<br /> <br /> Devastator:<br /> <br /> 7 Marines - 4 Heavy Bolters.    182 points<br /> 7 Marines - 4 missile launchers  182 points<br /> <br /> Add it to<br /> <br /> 10 Tacticals - Flamer, Hvy Plasma  175<br /> 10 Tacticals - Flamer, Hvy Plasma  175<br /> 10 Tacticals - Flamer, Hvy Plasma  175 (I think you get 2 in each <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> box...)<br /> <br /> Generic captaion - 100<br /> <br /> 990]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:56:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DAaddict]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wow, thanks everybody. Got some good ideas flowing here. Gonna playtest em tomorrow with a friend and some proxies to see what works out.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:14:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 2orky]]></author>
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