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				<title>For High Elves, Reaper, Vallejo, or Citadel?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys. I've got another question. I just put down my order for some bitz and a couple of boxes of High Elves. Now I'm looking at paint. On some other forums, people are saying that Vallejo and Reaper paints are both plausible alternatives over Games Workshop. <br /> <br /> Anyways, from past experiences, what are they like? I'm not an artist or anything, but I would prefer my models to look "clean" rather than the glunky chunky stuff we see on a lot of "Masterclass" eBay auctions. Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thanks. <br /> <br /> EDIT: Yeah. Aron's a cheapskate. But I don't see why I should get paints for 4$ when I can get them for 2$ if they're of similar quality.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:08:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arondight]]></author>
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				<title>Re:For High Elves, Reaper, Vallejo, or Citadel?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Vallejo paints are as good if not better than the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> stuff. They really shine if you are planning a neutral colors scheme, how ever I find <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GWs</span> to have a better range of bright colors.  I personaly use a mix of both.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:25:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Clthomps]]></author>
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				<title>For High Elves, Reaper, Vallejo, or Citadel?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I''ve used both Vallejo and Citadel and have been happy with both.  I have not use Reaper so no comment.  P3 is also a decent paint line]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:02:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ifurita]]></author>
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				<title>For High Elves, Reaper, Vallejo, or Citadel?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Use what works. <br /> <br /> Seriously.<br /> <br /> <br /> Every paint line has it's pros and cons and it's a matter of using what you like. I've found <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s metallics to be lacking dimension and variety, but the Reaper Master Series to have wonderful metallic shades. I love the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Foundations and Washes, but some of the base colors lack a bit of oomph. <br /> <br /> The mixing necessary to achieve a full tonal pallette in Citadel color is a pain too, another reason to pick up colors from other lines. Skull White's translucency drives some painters batty - try the P3 version of the same (Menoth White?).<br /> <br /> I've heard nothing but good things about Vallejo Game color, but haven't had the opportunity to try it yet. I had a wonderful experience with Reaper's new line of Pro Paint (not the Master Series, also very nice) before it was released, which is a formula born to compete with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>/Citadel line. Has excellent flow properties and mixes very nicely with water alone or a bit of Modge Podge for a glaze effect. Beautiful palette of colors, unique colored metallics (nice alternative to the "boltgun-chainmail-ink/wash to tint" effect), and priced to compete with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. <br /> <br /> If your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> is amenable to making small orders (assuming they don't carry these products on a regular basis), I'd get a few shades that you don't have in Citadel color from various manufacturers to fill gaps.<br /> <br /> EDIT: If you like that smooth, crisp effect make sure that you're diluting your paint with water or gunk/magic sauce/flow improver or a combination of the two. Also, you generally get what you pay for when it comes to paint with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> being the exception - always pricey there.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:14:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gavin Thorne]]></author>
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