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				<title>Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm just starting an Ork amy, and like many others a have two blackreach boxes worth of Orks. I like the look and fluff of Deffkoptas and I now own six of them. Any advice from seasoned ork players out there on how to best use them, Squad size, equipment, or anything else? I was thinking three small squads with a buzzsaw and possible Rokkits, using them as first turn tank killers. Now that we can turbo-boost in our scout move, I should be about to charge just about and unit on the board if i get first turn and possibly pull off something similar even if I go second.<br /> <br /> Here is an over view of my list so far:<br /> War Boss w/ Power Klaw and 'Eavy Armor<br /> <br /> 5 Nobz + Pain Boy, all the nobz have 'Eavy Armor and big choppas. There riding in a trukk wit da boss.<br /> <br /> 2x 30 man boyz squads, Nob w/ Klaw<br /> 1x 30 man Shoota Boys squad, 3x big shootas<br /> <br /> 6ish Deffkoptas in some configuration...<br /> <br /> Its just over 1500 points right now, and I'm building towards 1750.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Corny]]></author>
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				<title>Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ one word, rokkits.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:21:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Do i have luck with Deff Koptas?  Always <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Solid list. You might want to consider getting more trukks/vehicles for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> target saturation.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:35:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheMotivesOfMan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've seen Deffkoptas do really well, scouting and charging things that want to be shooting, locking them up right away and denying them the chance.  I've seen them held in Outflank in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> missions, to try and conserve their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span>.  In general I think they are pretty good.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:36:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40kenthusiast]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you either take them in units of 1, 2, or 5.  If you take a unit of 4, each time you take a casualty, you're taking a Ld7 morale test without a bosspole.  At 5, you have to lose 2 models to take a test.  At 2 models, you will only every take one morale test, and if one model runs, it's not a huge loss.  At 1 model, you don't need to take a morale test for losing 25% casualties.  If you take a unit of 3 or 4, you'll be taking more morale checks, and it's more likely that a pretty healthy unit or 2 or 3 koptas is broken and running.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:15:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dietrich]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I fly half of them around at max speed to draw fire. The rest go around the back or kill tanks. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:41:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Chalice_Tipper]]></author>
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				<title>Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What I'm leaning towards right now is three squads of one, each with a buzzsaw and maybe TLRL but I'm not too sure on that part. It drops my list under 1500 points and lets me reach out and touch up to three targets on the first turn. Also seems nasty for hitting heavy weapons squads as they can only dirrect their attacks on one of the koptas. At this point I'm looking at having 70 points left over w/o the TLRL or 40 points if I take them. Any suggestions for the remaining points? I was thinking about upgrading my trukk to a battle wagon, or taking more kommandos. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:01:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Corny]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the combination of DeffKoptas and Snikrot could be nasty. You could turbo boost your scout and have snikrot come in from behind, or have the DeffKoptas outflank.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:40:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Darkness]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i have used koptas and snikrot combo with great success and a big bomb on a kopta really comes into it's own. buzzsaws are great too]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:58:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Squig_herder]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Any luck with Deffkoptas?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Seeing as I am sitting on all the orcs I already had... which translates into ALOTTA boys, a mek, Kommando's, and a Boss on bike, and 3, soon to be 4, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(505);'>AoBR</span> ork sprues... I as well am going the kopta route.  I am hoping they function as great distractions. People are so worried about them (though I am not sure they are worth all THAT much fear) that I can get my boys stuck in faster.  Honestly I plan on running 2 squads of 5 with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> rokkits, 4 big bombs and 1 with buzz saw.  With the scout move, then 1st turn move you can easily speed over SOMEthing and large blast the hell out of it, then chew up a tank.  It will be glorious.  And even if all they do is get shot to hell.... well all that redirected fire just got my 120-180 boys alot closer with less casualties.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:59:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Aztralwolf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ take 1 kopta with rokkits and a buzz saw and outflank it. If you dont pop a tank then you rolled badly. Also 2 koptas with rokkits can work if you want to take more then 1.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:04:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Krootman]]></author>
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