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				<title>Master of the Forge Power level</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was wondering what people thought of the power level of the master of the forge when mounted on a bike w/ a conversion beamer.<br /> <br /> They seem like a 2x auto include in any non flavor marine list (sternguard/librarians, shrike armies ect.)<br /> <br /> <br /> Relatively cheap for an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>.  You get a unit that can move 12 inches a turn while firing a (usually) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 10, ap1 blast template that statistically hits over half the time.  It can also out range most weapons so you opponent has little chance of killing it.<br /> <br /> Not to mention the bolster defenses ability which helps you hold one of your own objectives in objective games.<br /> <br /> I personally see this as close to the same power level as lash princes or eldrad.  Forcing opponents to play around it so that it doesn't wreck them.<br /> <br /> Does anyone else see this as the next lash prince, eldrad <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> that soon becomes an auto include in vanilla marine shooty lists?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:24:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Timmah]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 42" is a long ways away.  If something is 42" away, chances are good that you don't care about it anyways.<br /> <br /> Any assault army will still just run at you, no change there.  Any shooty army usually fights around 18-30", if you split the beamer off on his own to try to stay outside of 42", he's liable to get zinged by a lascannon equivalent.  On an unlimited board, these would be kings I am sure - as would railheads and basilisks.<br /> <br /> Comparing this to lash princes or Eldraad who both drastically change how any army plays, seems premature though.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:52:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Moz]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's over 9000!!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:33:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nofasse 'Eadhunta]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ditto Moz.  The conversion beamer is a great weapon... 15% of the time.  If your target isn't out of lascannon range, it's just a really crappy missile launcher.<br /> <br /> Now, to the thread title, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MotF</span> power level is pretty darn good.  Give him a power weapon and he's basically 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span> attacks + 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> attacks in close combat, a twin-linked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> pistol and flamer for shooting, and can bolster terrain and repair vehicles.  If you don't need your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> to be a close combat duelist, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MotF</span> is a really darn good buy.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:39:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sourclams]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:</cite>It's over 9000!!!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> haha!  That's what I thought of too.<br /> <br /> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a219/YojimboJones/Random%20Junk/9000.jpg" border="0" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:28:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ YojimboJones]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not to be a poo but it is only a small blast.  Still a worthwhile choice, though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:02:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tacobake]]></author>
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