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				<description><![CDATA[ Do saves apply to models wounded by the Chaos Space Marine spell Wind of Chaos?<br /> <br /> For example:<br /> 1. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Sorcerer successfully passes his psychic test and uses Wind of Chaos on a lone Space Marine Terminator.  <br /> 2. "Models under the template suffer a wound on a 4+"--<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Sorcerer rolls a 5<br /> 3.  Does the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Terminator receive his 2+ armor save or 5+ ward save?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He uses his Invulnerable save. Winds of Chaos specifically says that neither Armour nor Cover saves may be taken against wounds inflicted by it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:23:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MinMax wrote:</cite>He uses his Invulnerable save. Winds of Chaos specifically says that neither Armour nor Cover saves may be taken against wounds inflicted by it.</div></blockquote> Thank you.<br /> <br /> Now I need to improve my reading comprehension.  :\]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:27:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thats a really nasty spell isn't it? I have no idea what they shoot, but it sure feels like a stop gap rule for flamers to make them decent...<br /> <br /> Lookout.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:29:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Augustus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's even better if you play a Warptime on the model before ripping off a Wind of Chaos in the shooting phase. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:32:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>It's even better if you play a Warptime on the model before ripping off a Wind of Chaos in the shooting phase. </div></blockquote>  Ouch.  It's like a Space Marine eraser.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:55:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Wind of Chaos: Do Saves Apply?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ My Daemon Prince uses the warptime/wind of chaos combo to great effect, it does however bring him up to 205 points.<br /> <br /> <br /> GMort.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Nov 2008 07:29:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurglitch wrote:</cite>It's even better if you play a Warptime on the model before ripping off a Wind of Chaos in the shooting phase. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Agreed.<br /> <br /> In my game group, like to play a pair of winged Tzeentch <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>'s and give each of them BOTH spells.<br /> Both guys in my group are far more experienced and better players than I am. I like to watch them sweat bullets as I fly these things at him, side by side, rerolling armor and invulnerable saves all the way until I crush their lines.<br /> <br /> In <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> missions, I have gotten MORE than my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> back every time (except one, when I only got 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span>), and usually DOUBLE their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>KP</span> at minimum.<br /> <br /> One of these bad boys annihilated Marneus & 5 Assault Termies in one (2 turn) combat, then an entire -tricked out- Vanguard Vet's squad in one turn.<br /> <br /> Mwahahahaha<br /> <br /> Eric]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:46:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ MagickalMemories:<br /> <br /> I think we talked about Warptime in another thread.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:32:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nurglitch]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MagickalMemories wrote:</cite>Both guys in my group are far more experienced and better players than I am. I like to watch them sweat bullets as I fly these things at him, side by side, rerolling armor and invulnerable saves all the way until I crush their lines.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Warptime is a purely offensive power - it only lets you re-roll hits, and wounds. You can't re-roll saves, at all.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:36:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MinMax]]></author>
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