<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Space Marine Tactical Squads"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Space Marine Tactical Squads
Here is one option.

3x 6x Tactical Squad
Razorback
HB, 2x Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade

// ~450 points

Razorbacks use cover, then move up. Back them up with Vindicators.

Problem: I do not really want Vindicators.
Advantage: They are mostly stand and shoot tac squads to sit on objectives. Everything else is Elite. Terminators and probably Vanguard squads.

Here is another option

2x 10x Tactical Squad
Plasma Cannon, Plasma Gun, Power Weapon
Razorback
HB, 2x Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade

1x 10x Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Powerfist
Rhino

// ~750

So with this I lose the Vanguard squad. I probably keep the Razorbacks pillboxed. I probably take two Thunderfire Cannons (for dealing with say Lootas, and to reinforce cover), and back everything up with Terminators and Legion of the Damned (which can tank-hunt).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461074.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461074.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads
The only thing I might consider using them for is heavy flamers. Against horde, a heavy-flamer equipped transport would do some serious damage. In every other case I would rather have rhinos, with the extra points spent on upgrades, dreadnoughts, or predators.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461086.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461086.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads
15 points more for a Rhino and you get some solid shooting. Only 5 if you skip the second Storm Bolter, which I might do so to be honest. Perfect for Combat Squads. Speaking of which, I might skip the Dozer Blade, too. If they get stuck they get stuck. Fortunes of war you might say. Although it is good for a moving wall/ weapon battery.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461110.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461110.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads Razorback
HB, 1x Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade

1x 10x Tactical Squad
Meltagun, Powerfist, Combi-melta, Teleport Homer
Rhino
Hunter-Killer

// ~120 points more than the triple Razorback. 4 more bodies, less shooting and some anti-tank anti-everything.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461114.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461114.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads What I do think razorbacks are great for is squads whose tactical relevance isn't compromised by the capacity cap. For instance a 6-man sternguard squad, a command squad with attached character, or perhaps honour guard or jp-less vanguard vets (that i'm not convinced aren't useless anyways, but at least they aren't any worse at 6 marines), all fit this bill.
Three tac squads in rhinos combined with two sternguard squads in razorbacks is a pretty deadly combination.

Hunter killer missiles were an interesting option in the DA codex, where you had to pay extra for the missile launcher marine. Comparing the point cost of a ML with the number of times you fired it to an single shot HK that doesn't have to worry about range, the ML only came out slightly ahead and only in certain circumstances. Sticking a hunter killer onto every rhino in an entire fleet was pretty deadly, and served me well in a few games (taking out a tau hammerhead and blowing the cannon off a leman russ). However, now that missile launchers are free for 10 man tactical squads the comparison is less favourable.

Drop the dozer blades though. It's rare that you NEED to drive a vehicle across difficult terrain anyways, and on the off chance that you do a 1/6 chance of immobilizing is fairly minimal. I'd rather have a HK missile on something tbh, or better yet an upgrade on a sergeant or a special weapon for a tac marine.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461212.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461212.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads
6 man with Razorback.
This squad can do two things. Stand and shoot, with the Razorback in cover.

Or it can load up, try and hide behind something, drive 12", pop smoke and after that work as a wall/ fire the weapons.

10 man with Razorback.
This squad Combat Squads. The 5 men with plasma are more defensive. The other 5, with the Sergeant operate the same as the 6 man squad with Razorback.

I mean a Razorback is only 5 more points than a Rhino. So if you actually _want_ a 5 or 6 man squad, it is a great transport option. The Dozer blade is for when you are happy moving 6". So if you are more certain it will make a 12" transport move, you probably do not need it. But when you are taking a Rhino squad too, it is probably more useful because you can use cover, which includes driving _into_ it, which is I plan to do with my Ork armies. Drive 13", sort of leap frogging into cover, always getting a save.

As for the Hunter-killer, I just thought it would be a cool upgrade. Drive 12" first turn, pop smoke. Second turn drive 6" and shoot the missile at something. I want one squad to be a sort of glory-boy Kill team squad. Which is why I kind of like those 6 man Razorback squads.

I could go Black Templar, too, now that I think about it. There is no reason they cannot take the Razorback squads. Sword Breathren in a Rhino or Drop Pod.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461229.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461303.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461303.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads
Tactical Squad:
10x Marines
free flamer
plasma cannon

175 pts

Razorback
Heavy Bolter
40 pts

215 pts baseline unit

You can combat squad to put the flamer in the transport, the 5 wound plasma cannon deploys normally. Razorback can drive around and shoot before delivering flamer, or sit still and shoot with flamer safe inside for counter assault.

I really like it, I think you've got a lot of potential spamming the 40 point AV11 heavy bolter/storm bolters.

You'll run into Imperial Guard Complex running 3 kill points per 200 list points, but honestly you should be so shooty that you can kill any troop army (assuming you've got a decent amount of anti-armor/Monstrous Creatures built into your list as well).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461375.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461436.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461436.page GMT Space Marine Tactical Squads
Tacobake wrote:Flamers are good, so are Plasmaguns. Maybe a Combi-Flamer on the Sergeant.



New marine rules don't allow any specials until you hit 10 men. so those 6 marines in razorback will be sporting bolters. you can still get the combi on the sarg for the one hit wonder.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461658.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/223677/461658.page GMT