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				<description><![CDATA[ This is an all-comers approach at a fairly aggressive DIY Chapter The Gray Crusaders, using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> codex.  I'm trying to get the biggest bang out of my 1000 points, even though I've heard it's hard to get a good <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - <br /> <br /> Chaplain Tygleris (just a basic chaplain, named for fluff)<br /> jump pack<br /> Total: 120<br /> <br /> Troop - <br /> <br /> 10 man tactical squad - Lance & Shield<br /> -lascannon<br /> -plasma gun<br /> -power fist<br /> Total: 250<br /> <br /> 10 man tactical squad - Flail & Shield<br /> -power fist<br /> -plasma cannon<br /> -plasma gun<br /> Total: 245<br /> <br /> 5 man assault squad - Templar's Squire<br /> -power fist<br /> Total: 165<br /> <br /> Elite - <br /> <br /> Terminator Assault Squad - 200<br /> -thunder hammers and storm shields<br /> <br /> The Templar's Guild (Death Company) deployed with Chaplain 4 free units<br /> -jump packs<br /> Total: 20<br /> <br /> 1000 points<br /> <br /> Sorry for the extra bits of fluff.  The fluff aspect is really important to my overall theme.  That's why I'm using an honour guard instead of another assault squad.  I figure if I'm short on scoring units, I can combat squad my tactical marine squads in to their offensive and defensive units.]]></description>
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				<title>Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Combat squads break down into 2, 5 man squads <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(40);'>fyi</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:02:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ah.  Well then, that doesn't change a whole lot.  I end up with 4 5-man teams, two that hop in razorbacks and go for a ride.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:42:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ At 1000 Pts, I would rather have more scoring units.<br /> My suggestion would be to lose the terminators for assault marines.  Not as buff but more mobile.  If you can manage 2 5-mans (Sgt with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span>) you can discount your death company and have two relatively fast scoring units.  The downside of course is 5-man squads make for easier <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(316);'>kP</span> but then again so do rhinos/razorbacks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:42:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would also save points on the chaplain, leave off the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> and live with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(486);'>PW</span> you get for free.  Lemarts with Jump Pack is 125 so why not. -1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> on opponent is not bad. <br /> <br /> Vet Assault Marines with 2 Flamers would do great for anti-hoard but of course not a scoring unit but built in mobility is nothing to sneeze at.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:46:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, updated the unit a bit.  I think everything is still in tact.  This also leaves me at 1k ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:48:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok well you have to take off the indivual point costs, because sometime <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> get there knickers in a twist over it, looks good. <br /> <br /> Death company are small, therefore vulnerable, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> can let you down when you least expect it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:58:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hrm.  That's normally understandable, don't want people getting codex access for free... the thing is... the Blood Angels codex IS free.  Oh well, I took them down anyway, I just had them there in case I mathed wrong and somebody caught it.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:04:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ CEN i think its something to do with Copyright.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:51:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This is a really great list but I would switch out all power swords to power weapons. The Space Marine power fist is one of the greatest weapons in the game ever.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:01:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It's a nice thought, but I just don't have the points for it.  For the extra points to bump up to some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PFs</span>, I'd have to get rid of a rhino or a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> unit.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:34:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would drop one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> Marine for the power fists.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:06:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hrm... it is 35 points a marine, after the jump packs... I suppose those points would be enough to upgrade two power swords in to power fists, and maybe enough left over to give an assault squad a flamer.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:15:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need to optimize 1000 point Blood Angels army!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright.  That thar's my list.  For now, at least.  <br /> <br /> Also, I'm wondering how I can split this up for smaller games of 500.  My friends all tend to have small armies ready to do tiny multi-player games.  I'm thinking about 3 squads of 5 man tactical squads, with a flamer in each, keeping Lemartes, and 3 free Death Company marines with jump packs.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:14:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> can beat down anything. You just have to optimise your list.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:27:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1000 point BA Codex army.  Help me optimize!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright.  I've determined that my freaking rhinos are worthless.  With no 3+ armor saves, and a gak load of gauss weapons firing at me, they are just to squishy.  I cashed them in for points, and changed an assault squad to an armor guard, and used the extra points to beef up my other units.  Plasma Cannon and Gun for piercing through necron armor, and lascannon for piercing through EVERYTHING ELSE!  Jump packs all over the place for deep striking and getting in close.  This list is MUCH better for my fluff. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:37:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Necron gauss weapons cannot penetrate rhinos but they can SHRED power armor.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:29:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1000 point BA Codex army.  Help me optimize!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Troops without transports is like school in summer time.  Your lads humping it across the board are going to be mauled by gauss weapons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:58:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The problem with Necrons now is that they must rely upon Warriors. I guess that is okay but it seems like a major crimp to me.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:53:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1000 point BA Codex army.  Help me optimize!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Replaced the honor guard with a terminator assault squad.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(376);'>Mmm</span>.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think honour guard are better, i mean 2+ save and can go in rhino, i mean come on! you gotta love it!]]></description>
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