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				<description><![CDATA[ So after quite a long break from the game (3rd/4th ed) I'm getting into it again, painting up a new army and starting to put a more serious army list together than I have before.<br /> <br /> While I'm not 100% on space marine tactics at this point (any useful links would be awesome <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">), the general idea I'm going for is fast attack with some big gun support.<br /> <br /> So far it looks like this:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> 1 Librarian in termy armour with sbolter<br /> 1 Captain, jump pack with 2x lightning claws<br /> <br /> Command squad, 1 veteran with banner, 1 company champion, 1 flamer vet, 1 boltgun/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> wep vet, and 1 apothecary<br /> <br /> Troop<br /> 2 Offensive concept tactical squad -&gt; 10 marines, one with flamer or melta (the new codex doesn't let you min/max anymore &gt;.&lt; )<br /> Rhino transport for offensive tactical squads<br /> <br /> 2 Defensive concept tactical squad -&gt; 10 marines, one with plasma gun and one with an appropriate heavy weapon for the enemy force<br /> <br /> 1 sniper scout squad x5<br /> 1 bolter scout squad x5<br /> -sergeant has teleport homer for termies to get up close and personal quickly<br /> -is sergeant telion worth it?<br /> -auspex isn't listed under available wargear for scouts, can they have one?<br /> <br /> Elite<br /> Assault Terminators x5<br /> maybe Sterngaurd Vets at some point<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> Vanguard Vets x5<br /> Assault squad x5<br /> Land Speeder Squadron x3 (with missile attachments likely, and assault cannon)<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> Dreadnaughts x4 with a wide variety of armaments<br /> Land Raider Crusader<br /> Land Raider<br /> Vindicator<br /> Whirlwind<br /> <br /> Heavy support is leftover from grey knights, minus the vind and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(477);'>ww</span> that i need to buy still<br /> I don't take bike marines as they're expensive for what you get :(<br /> Attack bikes are fugly but I'll prob consider getting some in the future..<br /> I'll definitely get a chaplain with a jump pack when I can, as the reroll combat misses is amazing <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> the number of models listed in each squad is preliminary, as time goes on I will add to the list<br /> <br /> Some general questions about new rules:<br /> can command squads take dedicated transports still? they don't have the listing in their unit entry<br /> when it says 'may replace bolter/chains sword for' does that mean that the unit can take say, a power weapon (1h wep) and a storm bolter (2h wep) and use them together?<br /> it would seem logical that they could, but i'm not sure<br /> i'll think of more as time goes on i'm sure<br /> also, they're really well painted (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>) as that's the main reason i buy the models <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>..so ill post pics today or tomorrow of what I've done so far <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> thanks for reading!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 2 Jan 2009 20:40:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ karmaiko]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The hardest hitting units in the game are Terminators. <br /> I'd take 10 Assault Termies and 10 normal Termies, not in one game but either or. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> Assault Marines or Vanguard Veterans are only good if you can support them, say in a RavenGuard army.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Jan 2009 07:39:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd take Black Templars, 5 terminator squads of 5 with two assault cannons each-just like the old days.....<br /> <br /> Or, 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> with two assault squads and a couple of squads of infantry......]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Jan 2009 08:19:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mikeguth]]></author>
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