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1750 Point List
Shadow Captain Shrike: 195 pts.
10 Assault Marines w/ 1flamer and sergeant w/ power weapon 215pts.
10 Assault Marines w/ 2 plasma pistols and sergeant w/ power weapon 235pts.
10 tactical marines w/ meltagun and missle launcher and sergeant w/ power weapon 190pts.
10 tactical marines w/ meltagun and missle launcher and sergeant w/ power weapon 190pts.
5 scout squad w/ 5 sniper rifles 75pts.
5 CC Terminators w/ thunderhammer and storm shield 200pts.
5 CC Terminators w/ lightening claws and Landraider transport 450 pts.

I played a game today against eldar, and the assault marines got reamed by wraithlords. I considered adding powerfists to the squads to prevent that. I use them to hit fast along with shrike. The fleeting thunder hammer terminators were nice, and I am considering purchasing another box of them for the tournament and dropping the lightening claw terminators, which got eaten alive quickly by a pheonix lord. This is by one army but I have notice i will be prone to any mechanized lists. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501108.page GMT
use sum teleport homers for your terminators and drop the land raider. instead you can have two predators with twinlinked lascannons for about 100P each. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501189.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501189.page GMT LR, chances are even if it doesn't kill anything it will draw quite a bit of fire away from other troops like your terminators allowing them to dish out more damage. At worst you can use it as a mobile piece to block sight so your terminators can march up the field.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501204.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501204.page GMT
Now you can have a larger terminator squad assaulting first turn from the Raider backed up by Shrike and the Assault squad, with another terminator squad and assault unit ready to come in next turn.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501365.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501543.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501543.page GMT
Cut the plasma pistols and flamers from the assault squads and get power fists.

Personally, I'd swap the Missile Launchers to Multi-Meltas to improve your odds against things like Land Raiders.

I really wish you could find a way to cram a second Land Raider into the list for that other unit of termies. If you can't, try some teleport homers in the assault squads so you can bring them down from deepstrike with minimal risk. Having them walk across the table will be very slow.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501558.page GMT
Teleport homers in assault squads is great if you want to drop a unit of termies right in their line. The bad thing is that they can't assault right off the bat, and will therefore take some shooting. A solution to this is taking shooty terminators, but if they get assaulted by anything with PW their pretty much done for anyways.

As for the land raider type, I'd suggest the redeemer, the lower transport capacity is annoying, but your list only includes 5 anyways so you shouldn't care. If you give the redeemer a multi melta then you also increase your anti tank options.

Also, don't forget that you can give regular termies chainfists
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501587.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501587.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501702.page GMT TH/SS vs LC, I would just keep them all with TH really. I would drop the scouts in favor of rhinos as well. That way you can go combat squads, or just use the rhinos as cover; also upgrade all the PW to PF. I'm not so sure about taking non-assault DS termies instead of TH/SS. I think you can make safe enough drops to survive a shooting phase, especially with the 2 rhinos.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501728.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501728.page GMT Tac squads razor backs would be a good idea. For 5 extra points, you have 5 guys chuging along behind your LR, you have 2 HB hitting 8/9ths of the time instead of 2/3rds. And you have melta gun squads ready to jump out and smoke some tanks, but also able to rush off an take objectives]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501850.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501850.page GMT
Shrike 195
Librarian, Terminator Armor + SS, Might of the Ancients, Gate of Infinity, Epistolary 190

10 Tactical, Meltagun, Multi-Melta, PF 200
Drop Pod, Beacon 45
10 Tactical, Meltagun, Multi-Melta, PF 200
Drop Pod, Beacon 45

10 CC Terminators, TH/SS 400

10 Assault Marines, PF, Melta-bombs, 2 Flamers 240
10 Assault Marines, PF, 2 Flamers 235]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501894.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/226111/501894.page GMT