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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, I have been lurking about and have been posting a lot of topics lately, but here is my first stab at an actual army list<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Captain Shrike ------------------------------------------------- 195<br /> <br /> Troops: 10 man tactical squad ------------------------------------- 170<br />                  -meltgun, multimelta, power fist------------------------30<br />                  -Drop pod-------------------------------------------------35<br /> <br />             10 man scout squad----------------------------------------140<br />                  -snipers (10)--------------------------------------------free<br /> <br /> Fast attack: 2X 10 man assault squad-----------------------------380<br />                        -2X power fist--------------------------------------50<br /> <br /> Elites: 10 man terminator assualt squad---------------------------400<br />                     -5x thunder hammers/ storm shields---------------free<br /> <br /> basically around 1500 points... actually 1400 points. But this is just a rough draft. <br /> Does this look like a good list?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:30:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fiendcrackar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't like scouts with shrike sorry heh]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:33:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ nickt2245]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Fiendcrackar! wrote:</cite>Ok, I have been lurking about and have been posting a lot of topics lately, but here is my first stab at an actual army list<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Captain Shrike ------------------------------------------------- 195<br /> <br /> Troops: 10 man tactical squad ------------------------------------- 170<br />                  -meltgun, multimelta, power fist------------------------30<br />                  -Drop pod-------------------------------------------------35<br /> <br />             10 man scout squad----------------------------------------140<br />                  -snipers (10)--------------------------------------------free<br /> <br /> Fast attack: 2X 10 man assault squad-----------------------------380<br />                        -2X power fist--------------------------------------50<br /> <br /> Elites: 10 man terminator assualt squad---------------------------400<br />                     -5x thunder hammers/ storm shields---------------free<br /> <br /> basically around 1500 points... actually 1400 points. But this is just a rough draft. <br /> Does this look like a good list?</div></blockquote><br /> No it doesn't.<br /> <br /> Lonely <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> does what? drop in unsupported?<br /> 10 scouts? 5 scouts (1x heavy) is just fine if you want a cheap troop choice.<br /> 10 termies with 50% <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and 50% <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> ?  Do they infiltrate with shrike?<br /> <br /> <br /> Drop the scouts.<br /> Add a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span>-squad (droppod)<br /> Reduce the termies to 5.<br /> Add a dread  (droppod).<br /> Add some flamers to the ASM.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> in,fleet with shrike. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:14:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 1hadhq]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Eh I think it looks ok. I'd drop the scouts, add a tactical squad, reduce the # of terminators (possibly to 5-6 and add a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> Redeemer with multi-melta) and give all of them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:19:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ brado]]></author>
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				<title>Re:A first timer's SM list...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ How are you seeing this used?  <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> & Scout park...  Shrike and Assaults run up... termies teleport in?<br /> <br /> Unless you are making a total commitment to charging in, I think the scout snipers are fine as is.  The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> weapons tell me up close and personal not sit back... if you want it to fire support, <br /> <br /> Suggestion:<br /> <br /> Shrike<br /> <br /> 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> & Plasma<br /> 1 Scout w Snipers<br /> 2 Scouts w Shotgun/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> sgt w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>  (outflanking or infiltrating...)<br /> 2 10 Assault marines<br /> 1 5 Assault Termie...<br /> <br /> <br /> Or....<br /> <br /> Shrike                            <br /> 3 x 5 Assault Termie  600<br /> 3 x 10 Tacticals  Drop Pod w locator beacons  625<br /> 1 x Assault Marine <br /> <br /> Shrike and assault marines approach battle<br /> 3 x Tacs drop pod in<br /> 3 x Assault termies drop in near the drop pod locator beacons.  (Maybe 1 or 2 standard termies...  Love having at least 1 chainfist and a heavy flamer, assault cannon or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> is not a bad thing to have either...)<br /> <br /> This is a long setup approach but you are going to have it all up close and personal real fast.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 7 Jan 2009 00:42:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DAaddict]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah. I think i will cut down to 5 Assault terminators, add a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad, and keep 5 sniper scouts. <br /> <br /> The idea is to use the scouts and drop pods to string out the enemy. They will want to send some units to take out the snipers, and will want to hold some units back to defend against the drop pods. This way the assault teams can pick them apart unit by unit, instead of taking them on as a whole.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 7 Jan 2009 01:58:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fiendcrackar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't drop down to 5 terminators.  Don't drop them below 7.  Your assault terminators will be your hammer unit used with Shrike while your assault marines form a roving anvil.  If you decrease your Termis, you will be killed with volume of fire.  It doesn't take too many wounds before rolling 1's wrecks your day.  Either keep the assault terminators at full strength or drop them completely and find something else that synergizes better with your list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 7 Jan 2009 02:04:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sourclams]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No scouts<br /> Pred anhilator<br /> Another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span><br /> With drop pod<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:44:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jamunition]]></author>
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