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Tactics and stats for both is what I am looking for. So how would you use them and why?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515403.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
Conclusion: Don't take Ogryn.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Guard_Doctrines_-_The_Bad%2C_the_Worse%2C_and_the_Mandatory#Ogryn

Rough Riders are a third choice to consider. Or even Junior Command Squads with Flamers.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Guard_Doctrines_-_The_Bad%2C_the_Worse%2C_and_the_Mandatory#Rough_Rider_Squadron

Otherwise just take whichever you like from a modelling/ painting perspective.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515431.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? GKs as allies. Terminators get power weapons, an extra attack on the charge(they don't benefit from true grit), 2+/5++, and can fire psycannons at their full potential as assault weapons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515435.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
AP6/ AP-: Ogryn
AP5: Same, other than Grey Knight rules.
AP4: Grey Knight
S6/7 AP2, weak AP3: Ogryn
S8+: Grey Knight

So Ogryn are an OK squad but I think Grey Knights have the edge given Fearless, The Shrouding and the fact they can shoot their Storm Bolters effective 6+24".

Ogryn do get the Frag Grenades, although you can give the Justicar a Frag Grenade as well. Not to mention Incinerators.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515439.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? FNP).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515440.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515440.page GMT Re:Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
Heavy- filled
FA- 2 hellhounds
el-ratlings, stormtroopers
Tr- armored fist and a full platoon
Hq- sentinels , command squad

Thoughts...Thanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/515450.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? GKs. By the time your enemy gets to you your storm bolters will have taken out a few minis and the NFW kick ass in HtH.
If you can make room for termies but otherwise definitely go for the GKs.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516121.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516121.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516170.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516170.page GMT Re:Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? RR. My problem with them is not their rules but the models. My very senses are offended seeing guys riding horses in the year 40k. I just hate the concept even if it is justifiable. It bothers me. I have been looking for ideas to make them look cool by conversations but nothing has come to mind yet. Ideas?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516306.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516333.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516333.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? PAGK, function well in Guard armies. They both suck up huge amounts of points that you could have used to invest in more tanks or men while still being fragile to enemy counterfire. At the end of the day GKs are simply T4 1 wound models with a 3+ save. I'd much rather have another platoon of guys with meltaguns or rough riders for the counter charge.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516447.page GMT Re:Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516458.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/516458.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? GKs at all. Similar to PAGKs, GKT will be fine at shooting until the enemy gets close, but when it comes time to assault, they'll do FAR more damage in close combat, thanks to their NFW being power weapons, and last a lot longer thanks to a 2+/5++ save. Not only that, but termies have access to psychic powers and a thunder hammer. Holocaust is a real nice psychic power(I1 S5 blast template that you can use in the assault phase, in addition to your normal attacks. It's a lot of hurt).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517067.page GMT Re:Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
I would love to hear more suggestions. However I realize there may not be a good answer. Luckly I like the possible choices I have. Just not married to any of them yet. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517202.page GMT Re:Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
Sha1emade wrote:Would love Grey knight termies. Problem is I cannot afford them in the army at present. I have 125pts to spend for counter assault, can push it to 150 but only just. 125 is more doable. Puts the termies out of range. Rough riders are fine but have yet to see a good way, that I am capable of anyway, to model them with out horses. This has been the root of my problem. It appears there is no good answer to my question. At least with out changing my army as it stands at present.

I would love to hear more suggestions. However I realize there may not be a good answer. Luckly I like the possible choices I have. Just not married to any of them yet.


You can buy the Scout Bike model and stick Cadian torsos/heads onto them. Likewise you can buy Empire Pistoliers from WHFB and do the same. High Elf spearmen from WHFB can provide great lance arms, or you can simply get creative with toothpicks. I personally went with the Empire Pistoliers because I wanted horses, but honestly Cadian torsos/heads/arms on any sort of leg will look pretty convincing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517262.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? GW's RR models the best way they had to keep IG from counterassaulting ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517296.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/517296.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? GK with IG. The GK can take iG units but they must reach some specifics. Also the only things you can take from the IG in a deamonhunters army is regular troops fast attack and 1 heavy support however that does not mean all unit types are availbe (cant take a hellhound). (Page 30-31 Deamonhunters codex.) As far as I know Deamonhunters and Witchhunters are the only ones who can take allies it doesnt work the other way around. I still see your army as playable but it would need some reworking b/c you would need a Deamonhunters HQ.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/518254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/518254.page GMT Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights?
Emrab wrote:Has no one realized that you can't take a squad of GK with IG. The GK can take iG units but they must reach some specifics. Also the only things you can take from the IG in a deamonhunters army is regular troops fast attack and 1 heavy support however that does not mean all unit types are availbe (cant take a hellhound). (Page 30-31 Deamonhunters codex.) As far as I know Deamonhunters and Witchhunters are the only ones who can take allies it doesnt work the other way around. I still see your army as playable but it would need some reworking b/c you would need a Deamonhunters HQ.


This is completely incorrect read your codex allies rules.

there are rules for inducted IG, Allied space marines and ALSO rules for allying DH/WH to other armies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/518279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/518279.page GMT Re:Can someone mathhammer Ogryn vs Grey Knights? DH HQ if you were going to use them. I got confused with "When using unites in the manner you MUST fulfill all compulsory unit choices on the force organsisation char from the DH list."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/518382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227005/518382.page GMT