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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey everyone.   This will be my first post beyond the obligatory intro.  Suffice to say, I'm a veteran of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, but this 5e and new Ork dex sorcery are new to me.  Thus, I would appreciate any help that can be offered on my list.  The idea is to be able to take all comers, and potentially become a tourney army.<br /> <br /> <i><b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>Warboss - 140 pt. (Soon to be represented by <a href="http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/orkwbbike.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">this model</a>. *drool*)</b><br /> -Bosspole<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -Warbike<br /> -Cybork Body<br /> <br /> <b>Big Mek</b><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> -Grot Oiler<br /> -Bosspole<br /> <br /> He rides in the second BW And projects a green bubble of happiness around my vehicles.<br /> <br /> <i><b>Elites:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>11 Burna Boyz - 165 pt.  </b><br /> <br /> They ride in the second BW with the Big Mek.  I am undecided on this unit, and could easily take Lootas, as I have the bits for both handy.  I know I'll be playing beakies a lot, so the thought of more Power Weapons appealed to me.  Then again, in my Chaos days, I used to always take a havoc squad with 4 Autocannons, and absolutely loved the result.<br /> <br /> <i><b>Troops:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>5 Biker Nobz (including Painboy) - 350 pt.</b><br /> -2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -2 Kombi-Rokkit<br /> -1 Kombi-Skorcha<br /> -Cybork Body<br /> -Painboy<br />   - Grot Orderly<br /> <br /> Da Bosses' retinue.  Pain on a stick, as far as I can see.  <br /> <br /> <b>20 Boyz (Including Nob) - 180 pts.</b><br /> -Shootaz<br /> -2 Rokkit Launchas<br /> -Nob<br />   -Bosspole<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <br /> Ride in the non Killkannon Wagon.  Some discussions on another forum have me sold on the idea of bringing some shoota boyz for extra flexibility.  I think they'll do nicely with some of the 5e objective stuff and a Battlewagon to ride in.<br /> <br /> <b>12 Boyz (Including Nob) - 152 Pts.</b><br /> -Slugga and Choppa<br /> -Nob<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br />   -Bosspole<br /> -Trukk<br />   -Grot Rigger<br /> <b><br /> 12 Boyz (Including Nob) - 152 Pts.</b><br /> -Slugga and Choppa<br /> -Nob<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br />   -Bosspole<br /> -Trukk<br />   -Grot Rigger<br /> <br /> I didn't have the Riggers at first, but decided that it would probably be for the best to at least take a couple.  If I drop them, though, it's a few precious extra points.<br /> <br /> <i><b><br /> Fast Attack:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>3 Warbuggies - 105 Pts.</b><br /> -Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br /> Bullet-catchers and some extra Rokkits.  Besides, I just plain like them.<br /> <br /> <b>2 Deffkoptas - 90 Pts.</b><br /> -Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br /> If there is a unit I am not sold on, it's this.  I think I may need to give them a chance on the table before I make the final call, but losing these gets me an extra Nob biker and some vehicle upgrades, possibly including Rokkits on the Trukks or in the Trukk mobs.  Alternatively, if I lose these and the Grot riggers above, I almost have enough for another 3 buggies.<br /> <br /> <i><b>Heavy Support:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>Battlewagon - 140 Pts.</b><br />   -2 Big Shootas<br />   -Armor Plates<br />   -Deff Rolla<br />   -Grot Rigger<br />   -Red Paint Job<br /> <br /> This is to carry the Shoota Boy mob.  It's big and armored to get them there, and can run stuff over, which is always good for a laugh. The Red Paint is to help minimize the oupacing that the Trukks will do.<br /> <br /> <b>Battlewagon - 185 Pts.</b><br />  -2 Big Shootas<br />  -Kilkannon<br />  -Deff Rolla<br />  -Red Paint Job<br /> <br /> As I said, I expect to be going after Beakies, so the Killkannon seems like a big plus.  This is where the Big Mek rides with the Burnas/Lootas, though I may change that, seeing as this one is going to be moving a lot slower.<br /> <br /> <u><b>Total: 1749 Points</b></u><br /> <br /> Again, this is a first real attempt at a list, but I feel like it could work. <br /> <br /> Thoughts?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <b>On the Battlewagons:</b> Killkannon reduces the capacity to 12 models. I'd do away with it, make it like the 1st one. Maybe do away with the Armor Plates.<br /> <br /> <b>On the Deffkoptas:</b> take em out. For those 90 points you're looking at barely 1 rokkit hit per round.<br /> <br /> <b>On the Trukks:</b> No riggers, these things are disposable.<br /> <br /> <b>On the Shootas:</b> I'd make em Sluggas if you plan to have them in a transport, Shootas if on foot. Big Shootas &gt; Rokkits. <br /> <br /> <b>On the Big Mek:</b> No grot oiler.<br /> <br /> <b>On the Nob Bikers</b> With the points you took out from the rest, you can buff them up. No grot orderly, no combi-rokkit. If my numbers are right, you'll have around 190 Pts to play with... That's 3 more Nob Bikers, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and a Waaagh banner. Or something, I'm not sure. More killy.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Prophet of Dakka wrote:</cite><b>On the Battlewagons:</b> Killkannon reduces the capacity to 12 models. I'd do away with it, make it like the 1st one. Maybe do away with the Armor Plates.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have a 12 Ork unit specially put together to ride in the truck.  Are you saying I should bump the lootas/burnas to 15 plus the mek as well?  The 60 points would trade out pretty evenly on that.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Prophet of Dakka wrote:</cite><b>On the Deffkoptas:</b> take em out. For those 90 points you're looking at barely 1 rokkit hit per round.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I am leaning toward removing these and adding another biker Nob or some buggies.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Prophet of Dakka wrote:</cite><b>On the Trukks:</b> No riggers, these things are disposable.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Prophet of Dakka wrote:</cite><b>On the Shootas:</b> I'd make em Sluggas if you plan to have them in a transport, Shootas if on foot. Big Shootas &gt; Rokkits. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have gone back and forth on shootas vs sluggas.  What I find is that the Trukk boys are going to get stuck in a lot faster, so the extra shots aren't likely to matter much.  With the wagons, I was thinking shootas, but I will likely try both, since now they cost the same points.  For Big Shootas over Rokkits, I am nervous about armor.  The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span> will help, but they can only charge so many things.  Do you see me having enough anti-armor without them?<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Prophet of Dakka wrote:</cite><b>[b]On the Big Mek:</b> No grot oiler.</div></blockquote> <br /> <br /> Fair enough, points are points.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Prophet of Dakka wrote:</cite><b>[b]On the Nob Bikers</b> With the points you took out from the rest, you can buff them up. No grot orderly, no combi-rokkit. If my numbers are right, you'll have around 190 Pts to play with... That's 3 more Nob Bikers, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and a Waaagh banner. Or something, I'm not sure. More killy.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> While I will likely give this idea a run to see how I like it, I don't know that I want a really big Nob biker mob.  I know that they are insanely good, but I feel like they are becoming the new Ork cheese.  190 points are also another Trukk full of Boyz or a big unit of foot sloggers, so your point saving advice is well received, but I am not sure what to spend it on, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>. <br /> <br /> Thanks for the input.<br /> <br /> Anyone else?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, per the advice here, and some tweaking of my own, I have the following revised list:<br /> <br /> <i><b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>Warboss - 140 pt. (Soon to be represented by <a href="http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/orkwbbike.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">this model</a>. *drool*)</b><br /> -Bosspole<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -Warbike<br /> -Cybork Body<br /> <br /> <b>Big Mek - 90 pts.</b><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span><br /> -Grot Oiler<br /> -Bosspole<br /> <br /> <i><b>Elites:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>15 Burna Boyz - 225 pt.  </b><br /> <br /> I am now considering Tankbustas, Lootas, and Burnas, since they are all the same points cost.  Rides with the Mek in the second BW.<br /> <br /> <i><b>Troops:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>6 Biker Nobz (including Painboy) - 390 pt.</b><br /> -2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -1 Big Choppa<br /> -1 Bosspole<br /> -Cybork Body<br /> -Painboy<br /> <br /> BikerNob++<br /> <br /> <b>20 Boyz (Including Nob) - 170 pts.</b><br /> -Slugga + Choppa<br /> -2 Big Shootas<br /> -Nob<br />   -Bosspole<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> <br /> Ride in the first Wagon.  Still have some Theoryhammer before I decide on Shootas or sluggas, and RLs or BSes.<br /> <br /> <b>12 Boyz (Including Nob) - 147 Pts.</b><br /> -Slugga and Choppa<br /> -Nob<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br />   -Bosspole<br /> -Trukk<br /> <br /> <b><br /> 12 Boyz (Including Nob) - 147 Pts.</b><br /> -Slugga and Choppa<br /> -Nob<br />   -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br />   -Bosspole<br /> -Trukk<br /> <br /> Riggers Dropped<br /> <br /> <i><b><br /> Fast Attack:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>3 Warbuggies - 105 Pts.</b><br /> -Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br /> <b>3 Warbuggies - 105 Pts.</b><br /> -Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br /> Added 3 more of these in lieu of the Deffkoptas and with some spare points from dropping upgrades.  <br /> <br /> <i><b>Heavy Support:</b></i><br /> <br /> <b>Battlewagon - 115 Pts.</b><br />   -1 Big Shoota<br />   -Deff Rolla<br /> <br /> <b>Battlewagon - 115 Pts.</b><br />   -1 Big Shoota<br />   -Deff Rolla<br /> <br /> Stripped these down a bit, and turned the second one into another Deffrolla Express.  I'm considering dropping a Burna/Loota/Tankbusta or two and adding Red Paint and Armor Plates to these.<br /> <br /> <u><b>Total: 1749 Points</b></u><br /> <br /> Still in the gluing/converting phase, so the list can change quite a bit if anyone has any bright ideas.  I'm open to suggestion!<br /> ]]></description>
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