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				<description><![CDATA[ Here is a list for a pure terminator army:<br /> <br /> Belial/thunder hammer & storm shield<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> squad #1<br /> Sergeant/pair of lightning claws<br /> terminator/pair of lightning claws & cyclone missile launcher<br /> terminator/power fist & storm bolter (<i>apothecary</i>)<br /> terminator/power fist & storm bolter<br /> terminator/chain fist & storm bolter (<i>standard bearer</i>)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> squad #2<br /> Sergeant/pair of lightning claws<br /> terminator/pair of lightning claws & cyclone missile launcher<br /> terminator/power fist & storm bolter<br /> 2x terminator/power fist & storm bolter<br /> terminator/chain fist & storm bolter<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> squad #3<br /> Sergeant/pair of lightning claws<br /> terminator/pair of lightning claws & cyclone missile launcher<br /> terminator/power fist & storm bolter<br /> 2x terminator/power fist & storm bolter<br /> terminator/chain fist & storm bolter<br /> <br /> Grey Knight Grand Master/nemesis force weapon & psycannon + psychic hood<br /> Grey Knight terminator/force weapon & psycannon<br /> Grey Knight terminator/storm shield & thunder hammer<br /> <br /> Deathwing Landraider Crusader<br /> <br /> Grey Knight Landraider Crusader/psycannon bolts<br /> <br /> The list is in the neighborhood of 1750 points and I should have some left to buy wargear for the Grand Master.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<title>Re:DW with GK 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Switch out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(30);'>DH</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> with another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:23:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, G., <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> does not need support from the Ordo Malleus. I'd drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GKs</span> and add some Dreads. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:28:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:DW with GK 1750</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I could drop one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> for a dread in a pod. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(524);'>GM</span> brings the nemesis force weapon and a Ld10 hood to the table... this is both anti-daemon and anti-psyker rolled into one. Sure wish there was some way to work in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:10:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Only 4 Squads at 1750?<br /> <br /> That's likely to get rolled up pretty easily.  The only problem for some people will be your 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span>.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:28:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>? They have gimpy assault cannons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:42:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They have the pimp smoke.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:02:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Green Blow Fly  you playing in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(238);'>rtt</span> this weeken?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:13:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Stylez]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I will see you there. Teh Hod and I are going to get belly rings afterwards if you want to join us.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:15:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thats a horrible idea]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:45:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Stylez]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No some chicks dig them really.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:47:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> get the pimp smoke too?<br /> <br /> The army is small but solid.  Should work fine as long as you pick your fights.<br /> <br /> Ozymandias, King of Kings]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:51:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ozymandias]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> get the&nbsp;pimp smoke too I can finally give praise to the adeptus mechanius. Thanks for letting me know.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:23:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Okay here is an alternative version:<br /> <br /> Belial/thunder hammer & storm shield<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Squad I:<br /> Sergeant/pair of lightning claws<br /> Terminator/pair of lightning claws & cyclone missile launcher<br /> Terminator/pair of lightning claws (standard bearer)<br /> Terminator/apothecary<br /> Terminator/thunder hammer & storm shield<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Squad II:<br /> Sergeant/pair of lightning claws<br /> Terminator/pair of lightning claws & cyclone missile launcher<br /> 2x Terminator/power fist & storm bolter<br /> Terminator/chain fist & storm bolter<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Squad III:<br /> Sergeant/pair of lightning claws<br /> Terminator/heavy flamer & power fist<br /> Terminator/storm bolter & chain fist<br /> 2x Terminator/storm bolter & power fist<br /> <br /> Grey Knight Grand Master & 3x terminators/same as above<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span><br /> <br /> This list the assault terminators and Belial ride In one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>. They are a counter assault unit plus they have the standard for +1 attack. Position Belial such that when he charges he is hopefully not in the sphere of influence such that no enemy can I insta kill him.<br /> <br /> The squad with the heavy flamer can ride in the other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> to maximize the use of the template, or Belial and the  Grand Master with his retinue ride in the second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>.<br /> <br /> Would it be worth switching out one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> for an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>?<br /> <br /> G ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:13:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If by "pimp smoke" you mean glancing only smoke then yes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> get pimp smoke too. BS2 Machine spirit though (vs BS4 for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>).<br /> <br /> So what is the game plan? Drive forward with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LRs</span> and then the other 2 run behind them?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:16:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The fluff gods hate you for this, just <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(40);'>FYI</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:40:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Crovan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Crovan wrote:</cite>The fluff gods hate you for this, just <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(40);'>FYI</span>.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> /agreed]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:05:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Hordicant]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't understand the comment about fluff.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:45:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Back in the day the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> didn't play nice with others.  There used to be rules preventing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> from working with allies.  As a long time <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> player those rules were always suspect as there were instances in the Fluff where the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> would work with outside forces and the rules themselves mentioned that in "extreme circumstances" it would happen.  Any game where the Master of the Deathwing is fighting is borderline extreme circumstances <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.<br /> <br /> Ozymandias, King of Kings]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:49:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ozymandias]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Psycannon bolts dont work on a Crusader. (addressing your first list)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:48:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Unfortunately I cAnnot take a heavy support from the allied codex and Grey Knights can't take dedicated transport. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(525);'>GKGM</span> is a counts as model for a LIbrarian plus I want to field my terminators in multiples of five. The Grey Knights can beat down daemons (I am planning to take Holocaust to deal with daemon packs) and I think daemons will become more and more popular at tournaments as they are the perfect counter to orks.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:07:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ you cant take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> the allie thing dosnt let you take Heavy Support]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That is what I said.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:39:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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