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				<description><![CDATA[ Gonna take this down to my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> and give it a whirl.<br /> <br /> List change suggestions and/or tactics to use would be appreicated.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>:<br /> Maugan Ra  - 195<br /> <br /> Avatar     - 155<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 10man guardains <br />  +Eldar missile launcher <br />  +Warlock		 = 125 (Babysits the wraithlord)<br /> <br /> 10man guardains<br />  +Eldar missile launcher = 100 (The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EMLs</span> frag will be used as much as poss, to make up for bs3. Ill hit somthing, Yes that may be nothing but still) <br /> <br /> 10man guardains<br />  +Eldar missile launcher = 100 (Avatar babysits all of the above)<br /> <br /> 5man Pathfinder rangers  = 120 (These guys are just brillaintly effecient)<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 5man harlequins <br />  +Death jester<br />  +Shadow seer<br />  +3 harlequins kissies    = 142 (Mr. Ra joins up with these kids)<br /> <br /> Fast attack:<br /> 8man warp spyders<br />   +exarch<br />   +Spinnerett rifle       = 193<br /> <br /> Heavy support:<br /> <br /> Fire prism                = 115<br /> <br /> Fire prism                = 115<br /> <br /> Wraithlord<br />  +Eldar missile launcher<br />  +Scatter laser           = 135<br /> <br /> = 1499<br /> <br /> It was unintended but every unit bar the prisms and the avatar have pinning in one way or another. This, I feel, can only be good. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Razerous]]></author>
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				<title>1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ whats the tactical point of RA with the quins?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:01:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DemonBunnyMan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Shadowseer + jester = a decent amount of ranged shooty. Better ranged shooty than a bunch of dark-reapers as they can move & because they cant be targeted at all/well with VoT. <br /> <br /> In closecombat (where Ra is good, reapers arent) the rending harlies can compliement him well)<br /> <br /> He could go with a normal squad but ive bought quins so Im damned well using them. Probably. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:10:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Razerous]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Personally sinking almost 200 points into a Special character that is close combat oriented with a foot slogger force seems a little grandiose. I would be making sure you have more ranged firepower to cover your advance (negating their long range capabilities in the process), allowing you to get within range to make full use of your small arms fire.<br /> <br /> Alternatively if you want to boost your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> abilities, ditch Ra for a full unit of Scorpions, as they will provide alot more attacks in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> overall and alot more wounds etc for scoring, not to mention act as a boost to your Harlies and a shield to your guardians. Thus you have a few choices:<br /> <br /> Long range support fire - 3x War Walkers w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EML</span> & Scatter Lasers (exactly 195 pts) OR <br /> Long range + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> support - Wraithlord w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(461);'>EML</span>, Wraith Sword, 2x Flamers (pts to spare) OR<br /> Enhanced <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> Ability - 10x Scorpions inc Exarch w/ Stalker & Scorpions Claw (twin chain sabres are also very nice <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>)<br /> <br /> Just a few examples there, but you can see where I'm coming from <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:09:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Morachi]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Morachi wrote:</cite>Personally sinking almost 200 points into a <i>Special character that is close combat oriented </i>with a foot slogger force seems a little grandiose.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Mr. Ra is the least close-combat orienatate phoenix lord.. he still rocks at it.. but he is dedicated to range.<br /> <br /> A <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 5, assault 4, pinning, rending 36" ranged weapon with the crack shot & fast shot exarch powers at his command make it more than a little lethal. BS7 too. <br /> <br /> Also my heavy support slots are full. but thanks  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:21:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Razerous]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I'd drop Maugan Ra and replace him by a cheap fortuning Farseer. <br /> Then you could beef up the Harlies as six footslogging Harlies is not enough. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:19:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I dont really want a close combat squad, the aim is to have a small elite mobile fire platform. <br /> <br /> Which it can do, pretty well. Itll survive with VoT and put out those shots and also if I do decide to charge them in, with the phoenix lords support, they will decimate units. <br /> <br /> For 350pts I dont think I could such a versitile combo. It could quite possibly get alot more dakka (vypers etc) or go for a very strong <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> unit (seer council time methinks) but I havent seen this combo before but It can see its not highly rated to I shall have to see how they perform.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:07:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Razerous]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Seems a waste then the Quins only get one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> cannon.<br /> i would also buy the Farseer and use his abilities to agument more than one unit.<br /> How bout trading Ra in for a fire prism or maybe vypers. but yah hes to spendy for what your doin with him <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:41:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DemonBunnyMan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ah yes, see this is why I shouldnt write alot last at night, miss things like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> being full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. If you want a bit more Dakka, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> advise almost anything bar Vypers in your list at this point, they have the extra movement, but you're not going to want to move them too far forward from your force and for their cost, a little steep... I do like Wuest's idea of boosting your harlie squad some more, or as stated before throw down some scorps... if your enemy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>hs</span> flamers, harlies are fried, whereas Scorps (esp with a Fortune Seer close by) will laugh it off and slap the twit that fired on you upside the head with a chain-sword. Ahhhh good times. Other than that, not a bad list, reminds me of Ulthwe in a sense from early 3rd Ed... shame we dont have the Craftworld book in effect though... those guardians would be a little nastier for starters! Not sure for this style of army im convinced Ra is the best option, as a rule of thumb I don't use Phoenix Lords in anything 1500 and under. Although I am interested in the possibilities that Krandras with a full retinue could bring... something for thought there <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:09:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Morachi]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think you would be better with Dual web spinners than the Spinnerett Rifle...One shot weapons are usually only good for templates or meltas/anti-tank weapons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Jan 2009 21:11:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AdeptSister]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Eldar for my FLGS</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I prefer being able to penetrate vechiles with that longer ranged 18'' <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 1 (good for the deeps-striking into rear armor time but scatter just a little <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">) annd Pinning! It can and probably will cause just the one wound, so somone takes a pinning test. <br /> <br /> Dual spinners will never ever cause a pinning test. Pinning good, with the rest of the army in mind. On its own, compared to the three extra shots it doesnt look so good. <br /> <br /> No farseer. He was lost to the warp. He tried his autach generals warp spyder jump pack on and dissappeared, Im going for a Khaine and Cegorach -Can some1 give me the pronunciation of that  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> ?<br /> <br /> Ahh I want somthing shooty. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> run away from templates.. shooting at said flamer wielding chums all the while (you never know, Mr.Ra could pin them..!) Its a counter-assault unit that has a day-job at shooting.<br /> <br /> Or is it a shooting unit with a day-job at counter-assault? <br /> <br /> Sorry to waffle on about not having the spare <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(57);'>HS</span> slots.. It could quite easily swap around the Wraithlord for a few (or a few more if I make points up else-where) war-walkers who'd essentail fill the same roll, albiet it walking behind one of the guardain squads, instead of upfront next to the (but not close enough for plasma pies) avatar. Its somthing to look into, toughness wise AV10 = t8 comparitively, Although tau rifles will ping off my 3+ armor save (but the War-walked should get a cover save from the guardains etc etc)<br /> <br /> Shooty shooty.. umm.. I cant think of anything that can do mr.Ra & the harlies job aswell for the points. Vypers? No. Okay, good. <br /> <br /> Swooping hawks? Ahaha.. no.<br /> <br /> 2x -  6 jetbikers + 2xshuri cats + warlock + random useful power = roughly the same point-wise buuuut no. Wrong theme<br /> <br /> 3x -10man guardain squads + decent weapon + conceal warlock (have front cover behind) but I just dont like guardains <i>That</i> much. <br /> <br /> Or/and a mix of dire-avengers..  but im just under-whelmed with them foot-slogging. Seperented their a great combo.. alone, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> prefer guardains, Plus they make better use of this fearless bubble. I am quite happy to keep that list as it is but im up for suggestion. End rant. ]]></description>
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