http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net IG has, my other units usually lose their effectiveness.

And so after first turn I'm usually fighting a hopeless uphill battle, and I was just wondering if there were any tips for going up against these particular armies with Eldar in mind, any help would be appreciated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525411.page GMT IG and Tau generally aren't that accurate so the offside to the amount of shots forthcoming is tempered by the fact that (most of the time) a lot will miss their target. Combined with cover you should only be getting hit 25% of the time. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525579.page GMT As far as IG are conserned, make sure you've got init 4 or more and plenty of attacks. Don't let your assault units get bogged down in a platoon of conscripts, that's exactly what they are there for, tie them up with a war walker. keep your big guns blasting at the IG artillery, heavy weapon squads and tanks.
To net some quick KP, nail command squads ASAP, they are 2 KP each comprised of 5-7 T3 wounds with 5+ saves, and IG have two minimum per army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525603.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525754.page GMT IG instant win. LOL


But if you don't want to be a tool then I go for a very mobile army list. Lots of wave serpents with DA, PW and shimmer shield and blade storm. Scorpions outflanking / infialtrating. use swooping hawks and bounce them with grenades, the FAQ states that you can DS and then remove them in the same turn with skyleap so for around 150 you can get a "bolter" Pie plate anywhere on the board almost every turn, grab the sunrifle since you have a shot at pinning them with there crappy LD. If you have some extra points a farseer with mind war is great to pick off squad leaders / marker lights / special weapons. Also if you have it, a squad of warlocks on Jetbikes is worth its weight in gold.

As for basic tactics against IG take out the JOs as quickly as you can. If you get them down in a couple turns the rest of the army should run off the board really quickly. If he runs mostly tanks a unit of firedragoins in a WS will earn back double its points in 2 rounds.

Against tau its much more of the same thing. Stick Star engines on your WS so you can ram tanks at Str 10 when you are done unloading your troops.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525835.page GMT
Don't worry, English is a silly language anyway...

Yeah, Tau vehicles are all Av10 rear I belive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525836.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/525836.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/526756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/526756.page GMT
The edge Eldar have is devastating shooting at 12"-18". Fire Dragons, Dire Avengers, Storm Guardians...these guys hurt Tau bad up close. Get in skimmers and blitz them. If you give Tau room to JSJ, maneuver and castle, you're not doing yourself any favours.

If you play mech, don't be afraid to rush. You will take a turn of hits, but Wave Serpents up front moving >12" will take a lot of fire, plus they'll protect the skimmers behind them.

Also, I strongly advise against taking too much infantry against Tau. You won't be able to bring enough firepower against them, and burst cannons/Rail submunitions will wreck your lines badly. Getting wounded on 2s by almost every weapon in the Tau army is a hard hill to overcome.

You don't necessarily need assault units to beat Tau; you just need to close that gap and make him panic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/526811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/526811.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/526893.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/526893.page GMT
On another note, heavy flamers will work wonders against both of these armies. Warlocks with Destructor or Fire Dragon Exarchs can make this happen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/527515.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/227674/527515.page GMT