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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Criteria of a TFG?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/7.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Criteria of a TFG? TFG however I couldn't think of anyone who I would associate with the term TFG. Then it occurred to me that I could be the TFG

So what I need right now is a list of criteria for what you would class as a TFG so I can check myself against them and hopefully dismiss these fears

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531410.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? 1) Often talk about unbeatable tactics?
2) Laugh when other people are not laughting?
3) Gloat over wins?
4) Blame bad dice for losses?
5) Blame cheezy armies for losses?
6) Often talk about how certain army builds are cheezy?
7) Shower less than once every day?
8) Talk alot about how good your army is and then lose?
9) Throw temper tantrums when things don't go your way?
10) Act out in ways that end up causing models to be broken (like getting mad at a unit and throwing them roughly back into their box or onto the floor)?
11) Argue over rules to the point where people pack up and quit playing "because they don't want to admit you're right".
12) Talk trash to people who don't talk trash back?
13) Find that people give very short answers to questions you ask and then don't seem to keep up their end of a conversation?

If you answered yes to any of the above, you may be TFG.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531488.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531488.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?
But if you constatnly blame bad dice then yes i agree.

TFG ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531506.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? TFG's or one really humongous TFG.

I can't really question any of the criteria you posted. Now, to hopefully make you feel a little better with your worry that you (the OP) might be TFG, here is a partial checklist to look at:

1. When you walk in the FLGS, do people call out a hello to you from across the room?
2. When you are at a gaming place, do people you know go out of their way to greet you and shake your hand?
3. Do other players actively seek you out for a game? If you cannot play at that time, do they seem disappointed?
4. When groups of players decide to go get something to eat, do they invite you to come along?
5. Do other players come to you to ask advice about army builds, tactics or rules?
6. Are other players of all different ages comfortable in approaching you to ask for a game, a rules question, etc.?
7. Do other players invite you to participate in non-GW/wargaming events with them (sporting events, going to a bar/club, joining a RPG game group, etc.)?\
8. Do parents of younger gamers appear to trust you around their children?
9. Do you honestly have a good time when playing a friend in a game and you get destroyed by him? (Assuming said "friend" isn't TFG himself.)
10. When in a group of your peers, can you laugh at yourself and allow yourself to be laughed at?

The more of the above questions you answered "yes" to, the less likely you might be TFG.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531557.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531557.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Phoenix wrote:1) Often talk about unbeatable tactics?

Phoenix wrote:2) Laugh when other people are not laughting?

No (unless evil laugh counts)

Phoenix wrote:3) Gloat over wins?

Sort of but in a friendly way

Phoenix wrote:4) Blame bad dice for losses?

Wouldn't blame an entire game on bad dice

Phoenix wrote:5) Blame cheezy armies for losses?

Phoenix wrote:6) Often talk about how certain army builds are cheezy?

Havn't encountered yet but I think lots of Nob Bikers would be pretty cheezy

Phoenix wrote:7) Shower less than once every day?

Always shower at least once a day

Phoenix wrote:8) Talk alot about how good your army is and then lose?

Well I do the losing part alot

Phoenix wrote:9) Throw temper tantrums when things don't go your way?

Phoenix wrote:10) Act out in ways that end up causing models to be broken (like getting mad at a unit and throwing them roughly back into their box or onto the floor)?

Hell no those models cost good money and took ages to paint

Phoenix wrote:11) Argue over rules to the point where people pack up and quit playing "because they don't want to admit you're right".

Never take rules disputes that far

Phoenix wrote:12) Talk trash to people who don't talk trash back?

Phoenix wrote:13) Find that people give very short answers to questions you ask and then don't seem to keep up their end of a conversation?

No
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531598.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG? TFG then you aren't TFG. The logic behind this is simple. You are worried about being a buzzkill in your social group, which means you care about the fun level of your fellow gamers. People who care can't really be TFG's ( or as I like to call them d**che canoes =P)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531738.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?
Also, I would be seriously worried about any parents who trusted me with their children, because I would sell them to the first person who made a decent cash offer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531804.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?
I laugh all the time. I think that is being happy

4) Blame bad dice for losses?

I have 3-4 games I attribute but my bad luck is known around my community. All the bad luck in the world means nothing if your opponent cant capitalize on it.

9) Throw temper tantrums when things don't go your way?

I do it if my luck is going horribly for me. I never blame my opponent or his army. I always blame me.

10) Act out in ways that end up causing models to be broken (like getting mad at a unit and throwing them roughly back into their box or onto the floor)?

I once threw a basilisk against a wall because of such a game (6 turns of not hitting a single model)

12) Talk trash to people who don't talk trash back?

I talk trash to everyone]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531822.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?

twigg wrote: or as I like to call them d**che canoes

I may have wet myself a little while laughing. Just when I thought I had heard them all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531985.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/531985.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?

Le Grognard wrote:

twigg wrote: or as I like to call them d**che canoes

I may have wet myself a little while laughing. Just when I thought I had heard them all.

feel free to use it man, its my one real contribution to the internet

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532056.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? MM, two lascannons, and 4 plasma cannons shoot at a truck containing a KFF Mek. It did nothing. Not even a shaken result.

I am TFG?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532073.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532073.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG? 2) Laugh when other people are not laughting? * Does bitter laugh count?like" ahh...ha ha...." when im pretty much wiped out at turn 3
3) Gloat over wins? * never
4) Blame bad dice for losses? *never
5) Blame cheezy armies for losses? *sometimes, but our RTS are known to have some power gamers that only makes cheese armies to play. ( he gloats to the cheeziness himself )
6) Often talk about how certain army builds are cheezy? ** not really but sometimes when i sit there gluing, TFG sits on same table to plan his cheeze army, he might ask me questions and i reply
7) Shower less than once every day? **atleast twice , up to 4 times during summer
8) Talk alot about how good your army is and then lose? **never
9) Throw temper tantrums when things don't go your way? **never i dont cuss or use foul language
10) Act out in ways that end up causing models to be broken (like getting mad at a unit and throwing them roughly back into their box or onto the floor)? **never, i dont believe in abusing objects
11) Argue over rules to the point where people pack up and quit playing "because they don't want to admit you're right". ** never
12) Talk trash to people who don't talk trash back?**never
13) Find that people give very short answers to questions you ask and then don't seem to keep up their end of a conversation? ** sometimes... but there might be a reason due to age gap at my shop,
i was 15 ish and everyone else is 40+ I dont know DnD and they dont know Anime .

1. When you walk in the FLGS, do people call out a hello to you from across the room? All the time, they always say "yaaay ready to play against my new list?!" then i had to choose who to play against first :"P
2. When you are at a gaming place, do people you know go out of their way to greet you and shake your hand? ** er no one does that at my shop o_o
3. Do other players actively seek you out for a game? If you cannot play at that time, do they seem disappointed? ** yes but that might be because i have different armies and they are excited to play against them all.
4. When groups of players decide to go get something to eat, do they invite you to come along? ** depends, they know i dont like greasy food, but they offer to buy me drinks
5. Do other players come to you to ask advice about army builds, tactics or rules? ** Sure, if they know i have that army and have experience on it.
6. Are other players of all different ages comfortable in approaching you to ask for a game, a rules question, etc.? ** yep, but the rules usually gets answered by TFG ( hes the know it all o_o )
7. Do other players invite you to participate in non-GW/wargaming events with them (sporting events, going to a bar/club, joining a RPG game group, etc.)? ** Age gap , i dont drink , but they always try to get me to play RPG stuff
8. Do parents of younger gamers appear to trust you around their children? ** Im the youngest there
9. Do you honestly have a good time when playing a friend in a game and you get destroyed by him? (Assuming said "friend" isn't TFG himself.) ** I dont play game to win, if anything i choose my list by models i like ( my opponent knows this , i also bring different army everytime usually )
10. When in a group of your peers, can you laugh at yourself and allow yourself to be laughed at? ** Yes , but the group never really laugh at me cuz they feel like they are my uncle i guess?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532083.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?
do you show respect for your opponent, the terrain, and their models?

do you bring your kid to the store and let them walk on the tables, play with terrain, and carry a rifle case when mutliple times you've been told not to?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532085.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532085.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

wash-away wrote:do you paint your models?

do you show respect for your opponent, the terrain, and their models?

do you bring your kid to the store and let them walk on the tables, play with terrain, and carry a rifle case when mutliple times you've been told not to?

yes i always ask before touching, and i treat other's stuff better then my own.

i dont always paint my models... does that make me TFG :x]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532092.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

LunaHound wrote:

wash-away wrote:do you paint your models?

do you show respect for your opponent, the terrain, and their models?

do you bring your kid to the store and let them walk on the tables, play with terrain, and carry a rifle case when mutliple times you've been told not to?

yes i always ask before touching, and i treat other's stuff better then my own.

i dont always paint my models... does that make me TFG :x

no, i ment to say "do you paint your models, or do you complain about the hobby"

we've been trying to promote fully painted army's at the store but some people just don't try.

jj tells us this is ment to be a story, and i don't remember hearing about grey or silver men coming out of the tree's. its just that much better to have even a partially painted army. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532098.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

I know excatly TFG your talking about.

Glad I dont run into him in any more.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532102.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?
When they give me a picture to paint the scheme to, its pretty easy, but when i stare at my black primed army , my mind just goes blank.

I still think unpainted mini "can" still look better then painted ones. You just havnt seen the ones that are Painted Beyond Recognition.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532105.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Boyofdestiny205 wrote:

wash-away wrote:do you paint your models?

do you show respect for your opponent, the terrain, and their models?

do you bring your kid to the store and let them walk on the tables, play with terrain, and carry a rifle case when mutliple times you've been told not to?

I know excatly TFG your talking about.

Glad I dont run into him in any more.

i've met two, but one was more or less a beat stick for the meaner gamers at the store.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532107.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? multiple TFGs with these defects, I figured I might as well point them out.

Do you:

1.) Feel it's okay to use racial slurs, because no one of said race is in the room? (I've actually had someone exclaim "Oh, that f****** n*****" after my Defiler destroyed his HQ)

2.) Use excessive profanity around other people's children?

3.) Have an army that depicts Swastikas or other equally offensive iconography?

4.) Blatantly disrespect women?

Now, I really hope you don't have to answer yes to any of that. If you do? That's basically instant TFG material.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532116.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532116.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?

Twigg wrote:basically if you are worried about being TFG then you aren't TFG.

This is it in a nutshell people. If the concern that you're TFG has entered your head, you're automatically disqualified. TFG always thinks he's everyone's favorite opponent, and is bewildered when confronted about his behavior. To fulfill my part in Godwin's Law, I promise Hitler never sat in his office, twirling his Snidely Whiplash mustache, and declared how deliciously evil his plans were. He thought he was doing the world a favour, just like TFG thinks he's a magnificent, entertaining opponent, and all around fun guy to be in the company of.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532117.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532117.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Chrysaor686 wrote:Now, these might seem to be going out on a limb, but since I've seen multiple TFGs with these defects, I figured I might as well point them out.

Do you:

1.) Feel it's okay to use racial slurs, because no one of said race is in the room? (I've actually had someone exclaim "Oh, that f****** n*****" after my Defiler destroyed his HQ)

2.) Use excessive profanity around other people's children?

3.) Have an army that depicts Swastikas or other equally offensive iconography?

4.) Blatantly disrespect women?

Now, I really hope you don't have to answer yes to any of that. If you do? That's basically instant TFG material.

QFT]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532126.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Chrysaor686 wrote:
3.) Have an army that depicts Swastikas or other equally offensive iconography?

Good thing none of my armies have those or will have any of those.

But in all seriousness I don't think I have ever met TFG in any of the GWs I have gone too, sure there are a couple of people I don't like getting dragged into conversations with but that's because the go on for ever and ever and I've herd part of the stories before.

And as far as I know I'm not TFG, I look but don't touch, I complement paint jobs and Army themes, if people ask for their opinion I give it. Over all at the store generally I just speak with the employees, while getting things for my armies or discussing plans for them. In return they ask me to bring in my armies to play a game, which generally I turn down because I don't think my army is ready to be fielded though often I am told other wise.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532127.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532127.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?

twigg wrote:Basically if you are worried about being TFG then you aren't TFG.

Hmm I like the logic. Anyway thanks for all the responses and I'm confident I'm not TFG one thing about painted models though. Most of them are painted but a few (Harlequins and HQ's) I haven't painted. This is because my painting just isn't good enough to give these the paint jobs they deserve. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532273.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Do pentagrams count? I know I'm not a TFG because my win/loss record is like 3 for 100 and I really don't care as long as I get to play. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532278.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? TFG is a high level of negativity.

40K isn't life, it's something we do to instead of life, and so it should be fun and relaxing compared to normal life, or there's no reason to do it.

Excessively negative and critical people who drain the fun out of the hobby, or people who go out of their way to spoil the fun of other players, qualify as TFG in my book regardless of other factors.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532503.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

warpcrafter wrote:Do pentagrams count?

Pentagrams are not the symbol behind something responsible for millions of deaths, and they are also an intrinsic part of the Pagan religion. As long as you don't feign pseudo-satanism, I think you'll be alright.

On the other hand, I've seen some white Space Marines with the Triangle of the KKK. Since it's a pretty covert symbol, nobody really understood the meaning behind it, until I pointed it out, basically creating an instant TFG. Even after he stopped bringing that particular army, nobody at my FLGS even wants to talk to him anymore. He's kind of taken up the mantle of 'That weird guy in the corner'.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532672.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532814.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?
Bugzilla
Dual lash / oblit spam
Horde Black Templars
Nob Bikers

any deny they are powergaming lists?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532844.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? TFG, it's all about the attitude.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/532915.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?
Power of your list really doesn't have anything to do with it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533067.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?
i have played meny a 4th ed demon bomb that i enjoyed the game with. but they were the type that says "ya, its a power gamer army, i know".
i have also played meny a game with people who play one of those and its "how is my army a power army? so what i win most all my games, im just that good and the only reason i lost to them was because i had bad dice / he had good dice / they played a REAL power army"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533081.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?

Envy89 wrote:well, someone who plays one of those armies AND denys it is a power list.

i have played meny a 4th ed demon bomb that i enjoyed the game with. but they were the type that says "ya, its a power gamer army, i know".
i have also played meny a game with people who play one of those and its "how is my army a power army? so what i win most all my games, im just that good and the only reason i lost to them was because i had bad dice / he had good dice / they played a REAL power army"

sounds like their a prick not TFG.

there's a lot of qualitys that make TFG smell is one, disrespect is another.

*sigh* the problem is getting away from these people up here when their in both shops i go to. it got so bad at mind games i just stoped going.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533100.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Chrysaor686 wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Do pentagrams count?

But what about people who are actually satanists?

I've met some really nice satanists, you know?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533153.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533153.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG? TFG. Look around. If you can't see him, you are him.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533155.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powergaming

Basically " doing what ever it takes to accomplish what the player wanted "

Thats pretty much the gist of what i mean by power gamer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533206.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533206.page GMT Criteria of a TFG?

Chrysaor686 wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:Do pentagrams count?

You see according to what you said in the bold area of the quote that would lead me to believe that you are a TFG also. Yes a KKK themed army is bad, but pointing it out and then having that lead to the person being shunned is bad too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533240.page GMT Re:Criteria of a TFG?

40kenthusiast wrote:It's a simple thing to detect. Every group of > 4 has a TFG. Look around. If you can't see him, you are him.

Thats a bit grim isn't it?

And @BrotherStynier: Why would it make you a TFG to point out racism? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533365.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? TFG its the fact that from what he said no one noticed or even seemed to care, yet he pointed it out. Does he know that the guy is a racist? How does he know whether or not the guy knows what the symbol means. He could have pulled the guy aside and asked him if he knew whether or not the symbol was the emblem of the KKK. If he did then report it to the guy who runs the store, then the guy won't bring the army back and he wont be ostracized.

Also the KKK's emblem is NOT a triangle of any kind this is the KKK's emblem for reference purposes;

If that was not the emblem on the army then congratulations Chrysaor686 you have ostracized someone wrongly and are indeed TFG. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533429.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533429.page GMT Criteria of a TFG? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533458.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/228079/533458.page GMT