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				<description><![CDATA[   Hey I wanted to make Cypher and his Fallen Angels theme for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army I was thinking about. Now I wanted to use the actual Cypher model but do you think he would work as a "counts as" chaos lord (undivided) with a deamon weapon (pistols in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>hth</span>) and of course rolling the 1 would be the overheat from his plasma pistol. He is supplied on the basic 25mm base but I want to use the 40mm base for display. <br /> <br />   I wanted to know from the online community if I brought him to a tournament game if it was ok or shenannigans. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:06:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Cypher in a CSM army.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The counts as, and your justification, are fine.  I can't imagine anyone complaining, so long as it was clear to them what his gear was on your army list.<br /> <br /> The base...will probably cause you issues with some people in tournaments.  Personally I wouldn't care, I don't see how you'd be really giving yourself an advantage with it, but this would be somewhere where someone would at least have a reasonable option to be a jerk about it.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Crazy idea that you might hate:<br /> <br /> Use Sicarius and the basic marine codex in a counts-as Fallen Dark Angels army.  He's a very influential tactical/support <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> that makes one of your squads "special" and his leadership reflects his ancient-ness.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:15:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You would definitely need the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(421);'>TO</span>'s approval.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:55:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>thehod wrote:</cite>  Hey I wanted to make Cypher and his Fallen Angels theme for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army I was thinking about. Now I wanted to use the actual Cypher model but do you think he would work as a "counts as" chaos lord (undivided) with a deamon weapon (pistols in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>hth</span>) and of course rolling the 1 would be the overheat from his plasma pistol. He is supplied on the basic 25mm base but I want to use the 40mm base for display. <br /> <br />   I wanted to know from the online community if I brought him to a tournament game if it was ok or shenannigans. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have never seen an issue with anything like this before in tournaments or otherwise.  In fact you will probably get compliments if you are good with scenic bases and for the great idea of running a fallen <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army.  Also, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(112);'>RB</span> even brings up scenic bases and heroes in well...heroic poses.  Again, the 40mm base will not be a problem if you use it for more scenery.  If you just use a 40mm base just to have one, then I can see some sore loser complaining about it.  Actually, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> sore losers will probably complain about a beautiful 40mm scenic base too, but I guess that is what makes them a sore loser.   Either way in my experience you will be fine and the numbnuts that do show up at tournaments with bad attitudes are actually pretty rare and the more common players are very great players and fine gentlemen.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:40:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ padixon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey I want to take Abbadon in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> army so Marneus ha a super friend. Cool huh?<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:58:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Green Blow Fly wrote:</cite>Hey I want to take Abbadon in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> army so Marneus ha a super friend. Cool huh?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not sure how that's relevant to the initial query, really.<br /> <br /> As for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span>, knock yourself out, the only problem you might get is the base size in tourney settings, but if you scenic the base up, even that should be a non issue. Just go over it with your opponent before each game (which should be standard procedure anyhow)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:14:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ chaplaingrabthar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Shouldn't be a problem at all. Regardless of what the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(12);'>BGB</span> says about bases, the player base knows a good model when they see one. It also helps that you have a great theme for your army to 'sell' the counts as model.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:55:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lordhat]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I remember when <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> could field Cypher and a squad of Fallen Angels.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:49:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I remeber when Rhinos were GBP% each, but that's just as irrelevant to this thread as<br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Green Blow Fly wrote:</cite><br /> I remember when <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> could field Cypher and a squad of Fallen Angels. </div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:06:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ chaplaingrabthar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Let's keep the posts On Topic, people.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:04:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was having a nostalgic moment. My apology if that bothered you or put a damper on your day.<br /> <br /> G<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>chaplaingrabthar wrote:</cite>I remeber when Rhinos were GBP% each, but that's just as irrelevant to this thread as<br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Green Blow Fly wrote:</cite><br /> I remember when <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> could field Cypher and a squad of Fallen Angels. </div></blockquote></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:45:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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