JD21290 wrote:i rather keep my skinks as skinks
also, skinks are cheaper by the box, and require no work to make em skinks

Golga wrote:Honeslty I tend to agree with jd. When I play an army I like seeing the models as is, takes less work on my part to remember this unit is that ect. Especially when your opponent tends to run far to many counts as models.

Also if you brought up the point that you bought 3 or so boxes of bfsp just to use the goblins as skinks.. my opinion of you would be very very low. If your honestly going to play an army buy the models for the army its the least you can do.

Aelyn wrote:privateer, are you planning on converting the models, or painting them differently, or is it just a 100%, "yes, these are night goblins to look at but skinks to play" counts-as?

Because the latter does somewhat smack of "I don't like the rules for my models, and I like these rules, so I'm gonna smush the two together."

Counts-as is acceptable for a themed, converted or differently-painted army, or for the occasional (appropriately converted or painted) unit replacement such as using pink-painted, appropriately modelled Dryads as Horrors, but if it is literally a night goblin army being used as a lizardmen army, with no visual concession to the fact...

Well, I'd play you (a game's a game), but don't expect me to think of it as anything other than you proxying your army, and as such don't expect it to go by without comment.

May I recommend painting them up with pale, almost blue-green skin, with brown and yellow-grey stripes on the robes, and with jungle-themed bases? It'll make it clear it's different, and gives you a reason of "They live in the jungle, and are emulating the Lizardmen they've fought before", which turns it from a cost-cutting measure to a nice bit of flavour in my eyes.

privateer4hire wrote:

Golga wrote:Honeslty I tend to agree with jd. When I play an army I like seeing the models as is, takes less work on my part to remember this unit is that ect. Especially when your opponent tends to run far to many counts as models.

Also if you brought up the point that you bought 3 or so boxes of bfsp just to use the goblins as skinks.. my opinion of you would be very very low. If your honestly going to play an army buy the models for the army its the least you can do.

I didn't buy the gobbos to use as skinks. I bought them to play O&G. Unfortunately, the codex creep with WHFB makes O&G a lot less value points-wise than new armies. That's reflected in general setiment of playing community and recognition that 2500 pts of O&G are allowed to be played in certain 2000 pts organized tournaments. I bought the Lizardman army book after seeing that they are a viable force with similar model concepts (small weedy guys, swarm bases, tough warriors and a stupid bravery (cold blooded) that shouldn't have them running every time someone sneezes).

GW allows counts as and my force will actually be very easy to differentiate. Spears = javelins and Archers = blowpipes. Not really that hard to keep track of.