Marius Xerxes wrote:Rules and wargear that choose deployment could still work. Like the Witch hunters Liberis Heresies. Regardless of who goes first, that player would get to chose their deployment. Works pretty simply, actually.

REAPER666 wrote:Dark angels codex:
Ravenwing squadrons
''much like combat squads,the squadrons attack bike and land speeder are purchased together with the squadron and then deployed at the same time as the squadron's bikes,BUT FROM THEN ON THEY ALWAYS OPERATE AS COMPLETELY INDEPENDANT SCORING UNITS.''
in the new rules, only troops can capture objectives, so can dark angel ravenwing squadrons capture objectives or not???

don_mondo wrote:

Marius Xerxes wrote:Rules and wargear that choose deployment could still work. Like the Witch hunters Liberis Heresies. Regardless of who goes first, that player would get to chose their deployment. Works pretty simply, actually.

Ummmm, no, the Liber Heresius no longer has any effect, at least, not when playing any of the standard three main rulebook scenarios. There is no longer a roll to choose sides, so the WH Inq never gets an opportunity to make a leadership test to choose sides. Don't believe me, not a problem, check the GW Witch Hunters FAQ, it says the same thing.

Q. How does the Liber Heresius work with the
new deployment rules?
A. The Liber Heresius doesn’t work within any of
the three deployment types given in the standard
missions in the new rulebook, because it only
works when you are able to dice off for choice of
deployment zone – in the new missions you don’t
actually dice off for this, as it is decided by who
wins the dice off to have the first turn. However,
there are plenty of other missions where it will
still work, such as many of those in Cities of
Death, in White Dwarf or those written by
tournament organisers for use in their events.

It's inane to presume that either of these units can claim objectives, based on wording for an old edition. the BGB learly defines which units can claim.

MM, do you tell your Marine opponents that his Eilte Sternguard cannot be a scoring unit because their new codex breaks the rules for what is and what isn't a scoring unit?

coredump wrote:Heh... can't wait for that.

Okay, try these.

Can a lictor assault after Deepstrike? (Codex says yes, BrB says no.)

Do Nids fall back towards synapse? (Codex says yes, brb says no.)


A codex does what it says it does. It is designed to change/break rules that are in the BRB. If they didn't want us to follow the rule in the codex, they could have errata'd it in the FAQ

MagickalMemories wrote:It's nothing like Pedro.
Pedro Cantor was written with 5e rules CURRENT and IN MIND.

This codex, contrary to one person's supposition (without back up) was written WAY before 5e was published and in no way reflects 5e rules.

Later, when I am at home with my books, I will post the evidence that anyone thinking these models can claim is utterly wrong.

Eric