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				<description><![CDATA[ <br />    a friend of mine plays <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and has the greater daemon, but i'm sad to say he has no clue how to use him in close combat  ,  and Abaddon says +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> attacks in with daemon weapon??? That mean regular 4attacks under A, plus his (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>)daemon weapon??   and i read when using a daemon weapon you must roll 1D6 before rolling to HIT, and on a 1 he suffers a wound....    <br /> <br />    any further info would help?? thx.<br /> <br /> looked in the rule book and in his codex,  learned some but still confused..]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm a little confused on what your asking.<br /> <br /> But Abbadon gets 4 attacks plus 1d6 attacks. So either a minimum of no attacks when he rolls a one for his weapon or 10 attacks at the max.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:05:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Typeline wrote:</cite>I'm a little confused on what your asking.<br /> <br /> But Abbadon gets 4 attacks plus 1d6 attacks. So either a minimum of no attacks when he rolls a one for his weapon or 10 attacks at the max.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> but would all the attacks be from the daemon weapon or just the ones from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> rolled???<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:27:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mr.Tangent wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Typeline wrote:</cite>I'm a little confused on what your asking.<br /> <br /> But Abbadon gets 4 attacks plus 1d6 attacks. So either a minimum of no attacks when he rolls a one for his weapon or 10 attacks at the max.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> but would all the attacks be from the daemon weapon or just the ones from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> rolled???<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They are all from the demon weapon I guess. It doesn't really matter, they of the attacks have the same properties. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:28:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ gotchya....<br /> <br /> are the daemon weapons strengths based on the uses strength....<br /> <br /> typhus's strength is 4,canifexs toughness is 6,   <br /> <br /> doesn't sound right that typhus would hafta roll 6+to wound.???  i dunno?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:40:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yep Typhus is only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 4, if I'm reading my codex correctly he gets poisioned attacks too.  Abbadon's attacks have the attacks of the talon of horus and his demon sword giving him <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span>+4  attacks that have the properites of a lightning claw crossed with a power fist.  But he's overpriced in my opinion.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:17:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Thalor wrote:</cite>Yep Typhus is only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 4, if I'm reading my codex correctly he gets poisioned attacks too.  Abbadon's attacks have the attacks of the talon of horus and his demon sword giving him <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span>+4  attacks that have the properites of a lightning claw crossed with a power fist.  But he's overpriced in my opinion.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> thanks for clearing that up.....<br /> <br /> but if it is a power claw would it assult last with an initative of 1?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:00:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, it doubles his strength and he gets rerolls to wound but still strikes in initiative order.  It's the talon of horus, not some weedy powerfist!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:02:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mr.Tangent wrote:</cite><br />    a friend of mine plays <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and has the greater daemon, but i'm sad to say he has no clue how to use him in close combat  ,  and Abaddon says +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> attacks in with daemon weapon??? That mean regular 4attacks under A, plus his (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span>)daemon weapon??   and i read when using a daemon weapon you must roll 1D6 before rolling to HIT, and on a 1 he suffers a wound....    <br /> <br />    any further info would help?? thx.<br /> <br /> looked in the rule book and in his codex,  learned some but still confused..</div></blockquote><br /> Next time your mate comes around to play a game, ask him to see his Codex. It's all pretty clearly spelled out in there.<br /> <br /> In short, Abaddon--like any other Chaos Lord with a Daemon Weapon--rolls 1D6 before attacking and adds this number to his Attacks characteristic. If he rolls a 1, he gets no attacks and takes a wound (which can be saved with Invuls).<br /> <br /> Don't know what you're trying to say with the Greater Daemon thing.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>are the daemon weapons strengths based on the uses strength....</div></blockquote><br /> It depends more on which Daemon Weapon is being used. Abby's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> doubles his strength (but keeps normal Initiative) as well as the +<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> attacks. Typhus' <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> is a Force Weapon that is 4+ poisoned, etc etc.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:14:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cheex]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nearly all of this sounds like questions that are better answered by reading the Codex.  We might get in trouble if we quote too many exact rules here:<br /> Codex: Chaos Space Marines<br /> Typhus, p.55<br /> Abbadon, p.46<br /> Greater Daemon, p.62<br /> General daemon weapon rules, p.93<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:54:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Democratus wrote:</cite>Nearly all of this sounds like questions that are better answered by reading the Codex.  We might get in trouble if we quote too many exact rules here:<br /> Codex: Chaos Space Marines<br /> Typhus, p.55<br /> Abbadon, p.46<br /> Greater Daemon, p.62<br /> General daemon weapon rules, p.93<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> and again, i appreciate your patients, my friend is getting ahead of himself buying too many unit and not fully understanding them, and while we play, we spend majority of the time trying to figure out what the hell his guys do....not fun<br /> <br /> so anyone with a daemon weapon that rolls a 1 must save the wound???typhus, greater daemon?or just in abaddon's case??]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:16:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tangent I think you should just read his Codex and then you'd be able to answer all those questions yourself. Long story short though, a Daemon Weapon gives you a bonus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> attacks, but if you roll 1 for your bonus attacks, you suffer a wound with no armour save (invulnerble saves are ok). If you have a Mark of Chaos then the effect is different based on which God. If you're using a special character with a Daemon Weapon (ie Typhus or Abbadon) they have their rules in their section.<br /> <br /> All of that could have been learned from the Codex... I suggest reading it. Make your friend read it too. Then read it together. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:23:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>anticitizen013 wrote:</cite>Tangent I think you should just read his Codex and then you'd be able to answer all those questions yourself. Long story short though, a Daemon Weapon gives you a bonus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>D6</span> attacks, but if you roll 1 for your bonus attacks, you suffer a wound with no armour save (invulnerble saves are ok). If you have a Mark of Chaos then the effect is different based on which God. If you're using a special character with a Daemon Weapon (ie Typhus or Abbadon) they have their rules in their section.<br /> <br /> All of that could have been learned from the Codex... I suggest reading it. Make your friend read it too. Then read it together. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> i'd gladly read <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex, if i had one, but i don't.<br /> <br /> thanks for the info, and next time im playing him i'll be sure to sit and read up on his particular characters.....and by that time hopefully he will have too...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:29:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Thalor wrote:</cite>No, it doubles his strength and he gets rerolls to wound but still strikes in initiative order.  It's the talon of horus, not some weedy powerfist!</div></blockquote><br /> He scratches like a girl!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:46:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Ghetto_Fight wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Thalor wrote:</cite>No, it doubles his strength and he gets rerolls to wound but still strikes in initiative order.  It's the talon of horus, not some weedy powerfist!</div></blockquote><br /> He scratches like a girl!</div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  Yep.   Just like a squad of Bolter Bi..  I mean Sisters of Battle, only much stronger and ignore armour saves.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mr.Tangent wrote:</cite>i'd gladly read <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex, if i had one, but i don't.<br /> <br /> thanks for the info, and next time im playing him i'll be sure to sit and read up on his particular characters.....and by that time hopefully he will have too...</div></blockquote><br /> I meant read his when you get the chance (borrow it or something). The benefits of that are 2 fold... 1) You get to read the rules so no mistakes are made when playing, and 2) You will know his strengths and weaknesses better <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Plus the Chaos Codex is so awesome... because it's Chaos /swoon haha.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Something to know as well is that Greater Deamons do not have Deamon Weapons.]]></description>
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