SmoovKriminal wrote:anal cherry

Beerfiend wrote:Err am I missing something? I may be new to Daemons but where's your anti-tank? If your skulltaker dies you have nothing that can even glance above 12 AV and the 12 is only on a charge. A single ironclad could whipe this entire list out by itself..

Wouldn't it be wise to go with 2 bloodthirsters if you want khorne HQs? Or hell if not, 2 GUOs and 2 DPs? Some horrors perhaps? I must be missing something..

Beerfiend wrote:Err am I missing something? I may be new to Daemons but where's your anti-tank? If your skulltaker dies you have nothing that can even glance above 12 AV and the 12 is only on a charge. A single ironclad could whipe this entire list out by itself..

Arleucs wrote:As said, zero mobility.
20 troops, with T4 5++ will just die too quickly.

unless you are facing a footslogging horde, you have no way to win. (considering the opponent is not completely dumb)

You don't need so many crushers at 1850 drop about half of them, and add horrors/grinders/anything that can catch up a transport vehicle.

Your HQ cost more than 500 pts; you could have 2 thirsters for that cost; which would give you mobility and anti-tank. Moreover, even if you keep only 3*5 crushers; it's already overkill in most cases, your heralds will just be useless.

ps: on a side note, what happends if your 3 crusher squads are charged by 3 dreadnoughts ?
350 pts of dreadnoughts that can handle 1500 pts of your army during the whole game. (you do not even have rending)


Modified list (roughly)

2 thirsters with U.might : 540
3*5 crushers with rending: 630
2*5 plaguebearers: 150 (objective holders)
10 plaguebearers with icon :175
2*5 horrors with bolt: 190

remaining 165 pts, you can either add:
1 daemon prince (MoT + bolt might be good).
add some more crushers if you love them.
add some fast moving stuff; hounds, seekers.
Add a large squad of bloodletters in order to protect the background (they're more scary than plaguebearers), or horrors, or a second big squad of plaguebearers.

You keep 15 crushers
You have flying monsters
You have troops for objectives, and things that can catch up/shoot land speeders/wave serpents, kill dreadnoughts and land raiders.

Kungfuhustler wrote:The only armor units they can't glance are Land raiders and monoliths... Two models best left alone in any event. edit: you always count as charging against vehicles!!!

T5, 3+/5++ and eternal warrior = cannot be insta=killed... and pile in allows the player to swing around to the back of the dread with a few models. The dreadnoughts will die, krushas may lose a model or two.

Kungfuhustler wrote:KK, I didn't know you could make these turkeys rend... I have only skimmed through codex: CD as I don't play CD. This is a for lulz list that was written by my bro and me. How many points does tit cost to add rending? This list, while intrinsically flawed, is 50% joke... although it will see the table shortly in some form. The list posted earlier was pretty cool, but not what we are trying to accomplish. IC dreadnaughts have 13 armor? cool. Sorry about that, thought you were being a moron, my fault.