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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I was trawling through the new White Dwarf, and noticed something interesting. On the Shadowswords datasheet, it states that the Sponson lascannonscan be replace with targeters (+1BS) at no extra cost. However, it also say's that the Shadowsword can take extra sponsons at +xxxpts. Does this mean we can get a BS5 shadowsword for as little as 550pts? I( don't know about this, but I thought it was an interesting proposition that The Imperial Guard players on here might like.<br /> VH]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:19:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Vampire Hunter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> i dont think so.  i think the spirit of the rule means that you have to take 1 or the other.  that would be sweet though]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:10:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Angry Commissar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Eldar Vampire Hunter wrote:</cite>Well, I was trawling through the new White Dwarf, and noticed something interesting. On the Shadowswords datasheet, it states that the Sponson lascannonscan be replace with targeters (+1BS) at no extra cost. However, it also say's that the Shadowsword can take extra sponsons at +xxxpts. Does this mean we can get a BS5 shadowsword for as little as 550pts? I( don't know about this, but I thought it was an interesting proposition that The Imperial Guard players on here might like.<br /> VH</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> so where should this <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> 5 come from?<br /> <br /> basic gear = 1 set of sponsons.<br /> <br /> replace lascannon at sponsons with targeters =&gt; Heavy bolter in sponsons get +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span><br /> take another set of sponsons =&gt; no additional <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> until you replace the lascannons on these sponsons too.<br /> <br /> I don't believe it was written as &quot;the shadowsword gets +1 BS&quot; if fielding any amount of targeters.  <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:47:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No no, the whole Tank gets +1BS from the targeters. Which replace the lascannons. But if you have 2 sets of lascannons (because you but extra sponsons) then you have 2 sets to exchange for targetters. So that means you can have 2 sets of targeters, and 2 +1BS's.<br /> Hope its clearer now.<br /> VH]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:02:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldar Vampire Hunter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yea that seems a lil sketchy.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> have to look at the sheet myself]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:03:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And what makes you believe that targetters stack with themselves? Having two sets would clearly do nothing more than mean you have some spares to use should some be lost...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:57:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ it seems too good to be true for the poor <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:13:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Angry Commissar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Depends on the way the rule is written.<br /> Does it say it can exchange the sponsons for +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>, or that it can exchange a pair of sponsons for +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> or something else?<br /> <br /> How it reads determines what it does.<br /> <br /> If you buy extra sponsons, then it says you exchange sponsons for targeters (without saying how many), you just traded in all those upgraded sponsons for no reason).<br /> <br /> Eric]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:37:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:BS5 Shadowsword?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Got the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(143);'>WD</span> today so i'll have a look:<br /> <br /> <br /> Shadowsword:<br /> <br /> -may take from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>  vehicle upgrades......<br /> <br /> -may replace sponsons with enanced side armor....<br /> <br /> -may add 2 sponsons with.....<br /> <br /> -may replace the lascannons with targeters.....<br /> <br /> -may add a front <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>....<br /> <br /> -may upgrade to ....<br /> <br /> <br /> So i think the order of possible upgrades shows the targeters as option AFTER adding sponsons.<br /> This could hint on:  <br /> -All sponson lascannons are replaced with targeters <br /> -one set of sponsons can replace lascannon with targeters, double choice won't add anything<br /> -as mentioned <b>sponsons</b> + <i>lascannons</i>, it could be 2 or 4 of them.<br /> <br /> But it doesn't say "replace one set of lascannons",Or "each set of targeters adds +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>".<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> its a +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> once,no matter how many targeters you have. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:55:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 1hadhq]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree... It seems like the spirit of the rule is +1.  My question is this: You're replacing sponsons with targeters, can the targeters be destroyed if you had a weapon destroyed result?  As in, are the targeters where the sponsons used to be or do they just become a piece of wargear?  I'm not too familiar with Guard things but I'd like to learn more...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:52:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grunt_For_Christ]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Grunt_For_Christ wrote:</cite>I agree... It seems like the spirit of the rule is +1.  My question is this: You're replacing sponsons with targeters, can the targeters be destroyed if you had a weapon destroyed result?  As in, are the targeters where the sponsons used to be or do they just become a piece of wargear?  I'm not too familiar with Guard things but I'd like to learn more...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The targeters look like the small turrets ontop of the sponsons (but with sensors,not gunbarrels) and replace the lascannon-turret.<br /> Not seen the targeters in plastic yet, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> model isn't that different in design.<br /> So you replace the small turrets with other small "turrets".The Sponson itself with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> isn't changed when adding targeters.<br /> Targeter a weapon to be destroyed? No.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:06:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thank you for the explanation... I guess I was shooting feebly for the stars, but at least now I have a very clear vision of what a targeter looks like on a stormsword.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:55:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ wow kool a BS4 superheavy.  this new codex is gonna be awesome for the 501st Calorian Seige Regiment]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:13:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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