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				<description><![CDATA[ Howdy all. Just a quick question for all the nid players out there.<br /> The situation: One of my most regular opponents regularly runs a 10-man Nob unit with a paintboy, and tools them up in such a way that they get a 4+ armor save, a 5+ invulnerable save, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(718);'>PB</span> ubgrade. This is in 800 pt games, so it seems like it is a pretty big point sink for him.<br /> <br /> The Question: How do i dispose of them quickly and reliably without losing large amounts of troops?<br /> <br /> I typically run a sniperfex, 3 rendy warriors, 3 deathspitter warriors, 20 hormies, and 12 spinegaunts with WON (plus or minus some other filler). <br /> <br /> Have tried dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> shots from the Sniperfex on them, but the combo of saves usually protect them, even though theres no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> because of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span>. (i usually inflict a max of 5-7 wounds on them per game  <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0">)<br /> Have also tried dumping stealers on them, but they tend to die against all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PKs</span> and Big choppas... (he likes them...a lot)<br /> <br /> oddly enough, most of the casualties inflicted on them are from the spinegaunts taking potshots <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> So, thoughts? suggestions? both are appreciated <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bring barbed stranglers - scything talon fexxes for your elite slots.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Kallbrand wrote:</cite>scything talon fexxes for your elite slots.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would prolly do that, but our games are 800 pts right now (just starting out) so i cant take em as elites.<br />  I would also drop the Sniperfex to replace it, but i need the strangler to shoot at his boyz too... (endless fun that <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> )]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:50:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Corndoggy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ahh sorry, didnt read it enough.<br /> <br /> You can run them as hwy tho, make them cheap and always keep the barbed strangler. +1 W is also the one thing that you should always get. If possible, use 3.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:55:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kallbrand]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Killing Nobz with nids...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ np, I hadnt considered making em dual role... I think I must try this...<br /> <br /> Also, i just thought of the BroodLord. With implant attack and the ability to ignore armor saves for free, would he and a large retinue (also with Implant attack) be a good choice?<br /> Attacking with all those rendy 2 wounds-for-one attacks might inflict enough casualties to break em... Anyone think its worth it?<br /> <br /> thanks for the info]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:03:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Corndoggy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Implant attack &gt; Nobz. I only wished that Warriors had implant attack again. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:06:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ may be worth using stealer spam, make sure you get the charge with a big unit of stealers with talons for more attacks.<br /> also, if its possible add a broodlord aswell, extra damage is nice.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:14:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ JD21290]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nids have the ultimate anti-nob upgrade: implant attack.  Tyrants, Broodlords, or genestealers with implant attack will take down a nob squad so fast it isn't even funny.<br /> <br /> Not to mention that a barbed strangler on carnfiexes will do nearly as well.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:59:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the replies everyone.<br /> <br /> Looks like implant attacks are the way to go then.  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> About the Barbed strangler, since whatever he is taking as upgrades gives him 4+ armorsaves, im actually finding it hard to kill the boogers with it. (partially becasue he is ridiculously good at making saves against my fexes for some reason   <img src="/s/i/a/ef7b97610a8bf5b2bd5df8209dc08ff3.gif" border="0"> ) also, he likes to spread them out as he advances. (in our last game, he had 2 boyz units and his nobz spread across his entire board edge, which really turned around and bit him later as far as movement) which is annoyingly effective at minimizing his template casualties.<br /> <br /> Ill probably keep fielding it to get rid of his boyz though, and also for the look of pure horror he gets whenever i plunk a pie plate on his prized mob. (never gets old <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> )]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:14:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Corndoggy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, if he's using a point sink like that in such small games you can really go to town on him. Take a flyrant with implant attack, some (4-5) warriors w/ deathspitters for dealing with the rest of his force, 2 or 3 boomfexes in the heavy support slot and fill the rest of the points with troops of gaunts.<br /> <br /> This should give you enough all round advantage against the nobs...boomfexes whittle them down then flyrant goes in for the kill. In fact in such small games the flyrant should be nigh unstoppable. I would suggest stealers but they can be shot up relaitvely easily and cost more points than a single flyrant when you take them in quantity.<br />  <br /> Good luck]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:23:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lukus83]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The beast way i can think of would be stealers /w Implant attack.  The rending will denie them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span>/Armor on a 6, you can get them for fairly cheep and the Implant attack will mean that you just need them to take a wound and they take 2 = dead nob. its the most points cost effective way i can think of.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:30:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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