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				<description><![CDATA[ I play as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> and want to know if any of you seasoned Imperial Commanders have any good tips on killing space marine terminators. All posts are appreciated thx.  <img src="/s/i/a/2ff985768408a7803eae783ca939b10f.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Step 1:Kill their transport<br /> <br /> Step 2:Fire as many shots into them as possible! Heavy Bolters/Autocannons/Multilasers. <br /> <br /> Step 3: PROFIT!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:30:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For me it's all about putting heavy weapon's fire into them.  With the new 'everyone gets a cover save' it's great for swarms (like yours and my bugs), but that doesn't help terminators.  They'll be using their 2+ still.  If I can hit on 4s and wound on 2's or 3's with autocannons or multilasers or even heavy bolters I find they go down.  NO one can make all 10 saves without a few ones slipping in there.  <br /> <br /> Just remember that terminators are a huge target and you might be baited with them to take your focus off of bike scouts or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads in rhinos that quietly catch an objective.  Basically, don't focus too much on them and if you have to sacrifice a unit to keep them tied up for a turn or two, do it!  If you have all the vox gear for tests and or commissars you might be able to hold them off.  They're death to guard armour no matter what they're equipped with.  But being slow I find they can be bogged down quickly after being shot many, many times with moderately powerful weaponry.  <br /> <br /> If you feel good about your plasma weaponry, stormtroopers are great with them, but I would never go that route.  Plasma just doesn't work for me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:32:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No lascannons?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:35:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ volume of fire. Seriously, they'll fail 1 in 6 saves, so you need 5 of those, so thats 30 wounds, you'll need 90 shots hitting to get that many wounds, so about 180 lasgun shots and you're golden. so about 3 platoons should do it, and thats without aything special to help out]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:36:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Demolisher cannons work wonders!<br /> <br /> <br /> If they are the annoying assault variety, then you just pour on the wounds and they'll fail eventually.  Or just let them munch on a few squads of guardsmen and call it a day.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hundreds of lasgun shots too. Everything counts in large amounts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:33:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Lordhat wrote:</cite>Hundreds of lasgun shots too. Everything counts in large amounts.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The truth exposed.  It's all about averages and even a 2+ will fail EVENTUALLY.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Demolisher cannon, or special weapon squads with plasma guns.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>BoxANT wrote:</cite>Demolisher cannons work wonders!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yep, theres nothing wrong with the tradional "AP2 Death Tank"<br /> <br /> Although just plastering them with fire isn't a terrible option either, tends to be quite slow at killing them though. The option the pros use is sneak attack Deep Striking veteran squads with 3 plasmaguns and a plasmapistol are pretty good for this too, cheap as chips and if they get the shot off will make the termies cry... well, they would cry if their faces wheren't burnt off with white hot plasma that is!<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>If they are the annoying assault variety, then you just pour on the wounds and they'll fail eventually.  Or just let them munch on a few squads of guardsmen and call it a day.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah, if its not a kill points mission simply distract them away from objectives. If they have a lot of lightning claws you can also use transports moving at speed for this too.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:44:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 1&2 shots!<br /> <br />  I'm not an Imperial commander, but I played  "Deathwing" <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> army yesterday (all termies) and I was pumping 22 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 1&2 shots into him per turn. Wiped him in a killpoint mission 6-1. <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, if you rolled like I did last weekend, I had 3 wounds to roll from bolter fire and rolled 3 1's killing 3 termies. *sigh*]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Gangbang seriously charge them in H  to H the best thing in the world to use against marines taht are Term heavy army are Rough Riders. Dirt Cheap ; they need 4s to hit and 2+ to wound.<br /> <br /> <br /> They will also reliably get the charge with being able to fleet ; and then assault. <br /> <br /> 400 points of assault terms wtih Lighting Claws  will die to 200 points of rough riders.<br /> <br /> Thunder Hammers are a bit more difficult as they have a 3+ save; so be sure to shoot the crap out of them first.<br /> <br /> Make sure that you at least screen your rough riders versus shooting.<br /> <br /> <br /> Ugh Rough Riders are disgusting and no one plays them :(]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:40:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If the Terminators are mounted in a Land Raider, you could try sacrificing a fast vehicle like a Hellhound to block its way to buy a turn.  Otherwise shoot them with everything you got.  Tank shocks won't hurt either, as they have a 1/6 chance of failing a morale check.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just wait till we get the Executioner <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(89);'>LRBT</span>, 5 Plasmacannon shots from 1 tank... oh how the termies will love that <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well plasma weapons work wonders as do las cannons.  However don't forget about your las guns.  Every 36 shots kills a terminator (on average).  So just keep picking away at them, they will fall eventually.  However, one thing to consider is if you need to kill them.  In most armies, they are not troops and thus can't hold objectives (although they can contest) so it may be more benifical for you to ignore them in favor of killing off the enemy troops.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In my experience rough riders work best .  Just opening up on them works to, but you haveto consider the cost of dedicating that much fire on a single unit. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Reaver83 wrote:</cite>volume of fire. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Truth.<br /> <br /> As a deathwing player, I hate fighting against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span>.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> are an attrition army and terminators die to attrition. While the advice about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>/etc is all fine and dandy, the humble lasgun is the terminators most feared weapon they face. <br /> <br /> I lose more termies by rolling 1's to save against flashlights than I am comfortable admitting.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurgleboy77 wrote:</cite>Step 1:Kill their transport<br /> <br /> Step 2:Fire as many shots into them as possible! Heavy Bolters/Autocannons/Multilasers. <br /> <br /> Step 3: PROFIT!</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Follow Nurgelboy77's advice.  Their transport will probably be a Land Raider though...ouch]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 77 points of rough riders = 3 dead terminators provided they do not have the shield of 3+ invulnerable.  This is a trade I would make every day of the week.  <br /> <br /> Min sized vet squad with max plasma little less that 100 points = 3 dead terminators provided they are no in cover and the vets get to double tap.<br /> <br /> Storm Shield termies....  volume of fire....  But really how many squads do they have to kill before they make their points back?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The dreaded veteran dropsquads with 4 plasma works wonder for example.<br /> <br /> If its <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> killing the transport and just staying away thats the trick. (Unless they come infiltrating with shrike, then your dead anyway)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have never really had any problems with terminators in any of my games, despite their 2+ armor their invulnerable save is pitiful. Never use bolters or lasguns on them as they'll just save the lot (unless you have a huge weight in numbers) on average one with die from every 6 armor saves they're forced to take (and if you cound 2/3s of your shots are going to hit, 1/2 of those 2/3s or 1/3 of those 2/3s are going to wound), so it's usually a waste of shots for me. Personally I like to completely dedicate all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 1 and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 weapons to them until they're eliminated. It's worked in every game I play but I play chaos <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For Orks (and a lot of other armies):<br /> Shoota Boyz with their awesome amount of fire.<br /> Lootas for their even better awesome amount of fire.<br /> Boyz in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> for their awesome amount of attacks.<br /> <br /> Notice a pattern here?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ "Anyone know how to kill Terminators"<br /> <br /> -hydraulic press?<br /> <br /> <br /> (yea that was too easy...I'll go soak my head now)]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ simple and effective 5 or more will get the job dome in couple of turns: snipers]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I used an earthshaker to Ordinance two squads of chaos terminators in a game ones. Basilisk is so worth it. Keep it out of range of the enemy and in sight of its targets!!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What is this executioner <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(89);'>LRBT</span> im hearing of? Sound tres-awesome. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The same way you kill anything with an invulnerable save - make them fail saves. <br /> <br /> Or hope for deep strike mishaps. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ they can't sweeping advance, so a charge with a bunch of cheap expendable guys might not be such a bad idea? I haven't tried it, but it seems like a way to exploit one of their weaknesses.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Deadshane1 wrote:</cite>"Anyone know how to kill Terminators"<br /> <br /> -hydraulic press?<br /> <br /> <br /> (yea that was too easy...I'll go soak my head now)</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> With the weapons you have here, I don't know.  I just don't know.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The most efficient thing is simply volume of fire.<br /> <br /> Assuming 5 on 5 and no lightning claws:<br /> The glaring flaw in Rough Riders is the one shot lance. I5 S5 power weapon or no, they should hit at best 5 times wound 4 and kill 3.  The terminators should kill between 2 and 3 in return. <br /> <br /> Good luck means you've tied up a terminator squad long enough to be able to shoot at it in your turn after a 5:1 return on points.  But how many more saves would guardsmen have caused shooting? Equivalent points values skew this even further towards the guard.<br /> <br /> There's always the option of tarpitting them with a commissar and 50 screaming LD10 conscripts at almost the same points value. You even get a wall of cover saves from those 50 bodies!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ leman russ turret traverses quietly.... range aquired.....ordinance loaded....taking aim...... BOOOM.  S8 instakills termies and makes them use invuln saves.  horay leman russ MBT =)]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ The Angry Commissar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No they still have a the 2+ battle cannon is only <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span> 3]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Jarran]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ S8 vs T4 causes instant death which denies normal armor saves....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:36:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I thought instand death work when they take a wound, they don't take wounds until after saves.<br /> <br /> Anyway, the best thing is for your opponent to deepstrike termies at you early in the game.  Have a demolisher somewhere and loads of lasguns elsewhere.  They're likly to enter away from the demolisher (if they don't enjoy!) and end up in rapid fire range of your lasguns.  That many shots dispatches them within 2 turns usualy.  I tend to use heavy weapons fire on more suitable targets such as tanks.  If the lasguns fail just charge them with a squad a turn, you can afford to loose a few points for points.  If you do wipe them out in the first turn (not as difficult as it sounds) it also has the benefit of scarring the s@#[ out of your opponent and makes them think twice before sending those tactical squads towards your objective.  I always back the demolisher up with at least two other tanks (a leman russ and usually hellhound).  Once you have three or more tanks you give your opponents too many choices to shoot at and they either split fire doing minimal damage or concentrate meaning you loose a tank but still have a juicy cannon left to deal with power armour.<br /> <br /> I like guard these days  <img src="/s/i/a/b3ae9cf68ec71745d6b110374d581299.gif" border="0">  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:51:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>S8 vs T4 causes instant death which denies normal armor saves.... </div></blockquote><br /> No it does not.  Instant Death affects multiwound models or those with feel no pain.  Terminator will still get their 2+ save against S8 AP3.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ winterman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Winterman is correct.  The battlecannon is AP3 so Terminators still get their nice 2+ save.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Ozymandias]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ bloodletters are the best anti armour unit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> allthough for tougher things like thisters then flamers kill him pretty well.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yea i was wrong.  thats the way i learned tho which means iv been playing it wrong since i started <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>. oops =(]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ The Angry Commissar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Zoot wrote:</cite>I have never really had any problems with terminators in any of my games, despite their 2+ armor their invulnerable save is pitiful. Never use bolters or lasguns on them as they'll just save the lot (unless you have a huge weight in numbers) on average one with die from every 6 armor saves they're forced to take (and if you cound 2/3s of your shots are going to hit, 1/2 of those 2/3s or 1/3 of those 2/3s are going to wound), so it's usually a waste of shots for me. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> "Never use bolters or lasguns on them"<br /> <br /> That is the worst advice I've ever heard regarding terminators. Especially nowadays that the majority have a 3+ invulnerable save.<br /> <br /> If your opponent brings only one single landraider, it might be good to use every lascannon on it then the termies, but if your opponent is smart and brings multiple tanks/walkers then lascannons need to blow up things bolters cannot blow up.<br /> <br /> Bolters and Lasguns are specifically great against assault termies. And non-assault termies aren't really a threat.]]></description>
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