<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Chaos Marines Endangered"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/31.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Chaos Marines Endangered 40K future they will all go *POOF* and disappear....

Or does the fluff say that the Chaos gods resurect them.... ?

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Get da hint?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589579.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589600.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
whatwhat wrote:Yeh as Belphagor hinted at with Storm of Iron, Chaos marines will often try and capture imperium gene seed stock. The statement "Chaos marines cant recruit new members" is plain false.


So what your sayying is the Chaos Marines capture new stocks of gene seed (which i think would be a big effort in its self) and the go through the process of impanting the different oprgans ect.....

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Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Chaos Marines don't recruit others, THEY recruit THEMSELVES.

Get da hint?


Nope]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589650.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589650.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
mussie76 wrote:
whatwhat wrote:Yeh as Belphagor hinted at with Storm of Iron, Chaos marines will often try and capture imperium gene seed stock. The statement "Chaos marines cant recruit new members" is plain false.


So what your sayying is the Chaos Marines capture new stocks of gene seed (which i think would be a big effort in its self) and the go through the process of impanting the different oprgans ect.....



Yes that's what I'm saying. For example, big effort or not 'Storm of Iron,' as Belphegor mentioned, is a book where the iron warriors do exactly that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589688.page GMT Re:Chaos Marines Endangered http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589712.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589712.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
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palaeomerus wrote:Supposedly Fabius Bile (formerly of the Emperor's Children) understands a great deal about genetics and has decoded much of the Astartes design. He helps many of the chaos legions with such issues. The books also mention the Iron Legion "recently" managed to grab a geneseed depository from the Adeptus Mechanicus and was, with the help of the Savage Morticians (Dark Mechanicus), growing skinless replacement space marines in tanks though a cloning process and then covering them with skin grown and fremoved from horribly fat people on tissue farms on Medrengard. Honsou, the junior commander who finished that siege and raid, was reviled within his own legion for having been implanted with geneseed stolen from the Imperial Fists chapter instead of original Iron Legion geneseed.



Why grow them skinless.... or is that just like a Chaos "thang" lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589842.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
mussie76 wrote:
Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Chaos Marines don't recruit others, THEY recruit THEMSELVES.

Get da hint?


Nope

Didn't think you would.

What I mean is Chaos Marines essentially recruit themselves, since they're Marines who go evil.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/589962.page GMT Re:Chaos Marines Endangered http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/590003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/590003.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/590032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/590032.page GMT Re:Chaos Marines Endangered
Also not all Chaos Marines are "recruited" from Space Marines. In Dark Disciple (No spoilers) One Word Bearer remembers back to the time he and his best friend were recruited to become Word Bearers and he and his friend were already full grown men, not Marines.
So the secret to creating Marines is out there in the hands of Chaos.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/590100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/590100.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
palaeomerus wrote:Supposedly Fabius Bile (formerly of the Emperor's Children) understands a great deal about genetics and has decoded much of the Astartes design. He helps many of the chaos legions with such issues. The books also mention the Iron Legion "recently" managed to grab a geneseed depository from the Adeptus Mechanicus and was, with the help of the Savage Morticians (Dark Mechanicus), growing skinless replacement space marines in tanks though a cloning process and then covering them with skin grown and fremoved from horribly fat people on tissue farms on Medrengard. Honsou, the junior commander who finished that siege and raid, was reviled within his own legion for having been implanted with geneseed stolen from the Imperial Fists chapter instead of original Iron Legion geneseed.


Replacement space marines

I thought so. CSM are not real space marines then.

In the long run, the CSM would be smurfs, because most geneseed comes from gullymans boys.
Could happen, the former legions geneseed extinct ( except that secured portion at genebanks on Terra).

The Thousandth Son wrote:Space Marines will go renegade, thus increasing the number of Chaos Space Marines.


Right on.

jabbakahut wrote:When chaos manages to breach the imperium through a rogue psyker they can bring back imperial citizens, once in the warp they can be shaped into any form.


Chaos corrupts, the warp isn't capable of supporting the transformation process.
You'll get mutants or monsters but no real fully functioning space marine.

DarkReaver wrote:It was written somewhere that Fabius Bile not only understands how Space Marines are created but can create his own Marines and helps all the Chaos Legions so as to not form an enemy with any of them.

Also not all Chaos Marines are "recruited" from Space Marines. In Dark Disciple (No spoilers) One Word Bearer remembers back to the time he and his best friend were recruited to become Word Bearers and he and his friend were already full grown men, not Marines.
So the secret to creating Marines is out there in the hands of Chaos.




NO
1) create his own marines?
i think you overestimate this corrupted apothecary a lot.

2)The word bearers in "dark disciple" were recruited when their primarch was around, so any process used before heresy may not be done 10k years later. Loss of technology in the war.
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mussie76 wrote:
palaeomerus wrote:Supposedly Fabius Bile (formerly of the Emperor's Children) understands a great deal about genetics and has decoded much of the Astartes design. He helps many of the chaos legions with such issues. The books also mention the Iron Legion "recently" managed to grab a geneseed depository from the Adeptus Mechanicus and was, with the help of the Savage Morticians (Dark Mechanicus), growing skinless replacement space marines in tanks though a cloning process and then covering them with skin grown and fremoved from horribly fat people on tissue farms on Medrengard. Honsou, the junior commander who finished that siege and raid, was reviled within his own legion for having been implanted with geneseed stolen from the Imperial Fists chapter instead of original Iron Legion geneseed.



Why grow them skinless.... or is that just like a Chaos "thang" lol


Ummm....it's more of a Graham McNeil thing I guess. He wanted to have skin farms and some hulking skinless reject marines running around on Medrengad giving disgraced Ultramarines Uriel Ventris and Pasanius a hard time.

Maybe the Iron Legion thinks that starting out life without any skin builds character. And I guess not having any skin to begin with makes adding the black carapace a whole lot easier...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/591261.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/591261.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fabius_Bile]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/591262.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/591262.page GMT Re:Chaos Marines Endangered
Really there are more then one way they get there ranks up. making new marines, renegades and im sure theres others]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/592419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/592419.page GMT Re:Chaos Marines Endangered
KingCracker wrote:Actually he IS right. Ive got the Chaos codex that says it. It says that he creates new marines for

Bile claims to be able to do so. A little difference.

It never says he creates new"marines". The story goes about "enhanced humans", more crazy mutants than intelligent warriors.



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I forget which CSM codex it was - I'm at work and cannot wander over to my library - but it says something about how they are chosen from a planet's population, usually during a chaos incursion, and then Dark Mechanicus and Sorcerers "begin their work".

As for where they recruit their own, there are plenty of planets within the Eye of Terror from which to fill their ranks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/593182.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/593182.page GMT Chaos Marines Endangered
If the Corsairs can do this, so can the more mature Legions.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/593239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/593239.page GMT Re:Chaos Marines Endangered http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/593432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/231721/593432.page GMT