MarvinGayeIsMyDaddy wrote:Needs rhinos and maybe melta instead of plasma.

Lorgar's_Blessed wrote:It will probably do good in a match, but you'll get marked down HARD for sportsmanship and such.

DP with LoS is like the biggest cheese in a chaos list. And then you have Plague Marines. There's no fluff to the list, just winning, and it looks like it would be frowned upon for not having any feel to it. Seriously, it will win, but you won't get 1st place for this list. I've seen nidzilla's do better than I think this would.

Inigo Montoya wrote:HQ - 310
155 – Deamon Prince: Wings, Mark Of Slannesh and Lash Of Submission.
155 – Deamon Prince: Wings, Mark Of Slannesh and Lash Of Submission.

TROOPS - 732
266 – 7 Plague Marines: Aspiring champ w/ pf, 2 Plasmaguns, Rhino
233 – 6 Plague Marines: Aspiring champ w/ pf, 2 Melta guns, Rhino
233 – 6 Plague Marines: Aspiring champ w/ pf, 2 melta guns, Rhino

HEAVY SUPPORT - 450
150 – 2 Obliterators
150 – 2 Obliterators
150 – 2 Obliterators

Total: 1492
Total No: 30(3)
Kill Pts: 11

There you go.
Nothing wrong with hiding behind big guns, THAT IS WHY THEY ARE THERE!
All of the whining pisses me off. In a friendly game you would be a butt for playing this. In a tournament there is no reason not to.
Somewhere some whiny girlyman reinterpreted sportsmanship to reflect the build and not the player. The build has nothing to do with sportsmanship and getting docked as such is ludicrous.

Sportsmanship has nothing to do with lists imo and is pure behavoir while playing.

sexiest_hero wrote:People say we are crying over a list are wrong IMHO. Every 3 or 4 days a "new double lasy list pops up, and there is nothing wrong with that. But then the OP asks what tacits to use with it. A simple search will return over 1000 lists with the same tactics. Lash them in a bunch and blast them. Nothing more nothing less. I don't mind copy pasting lists. but go ahead and copy paste the tacitcs too. Oh, and don't fool yourself, this isn't a Dark Mech. list or anything else, It's a lash list.

fatal_GRACE wrote:Oooh, what a fresh, exciting, and original list.

True I admit it I want some cheese of my own! Most players at my club have cheesy lists such as nidzillas, and lashs with 3 vindicators to a all jetbike seer counsil the lists go on, all of which I've been on the other side of the table to.

wuestenfux wrote:

True I admit it I want some cheese of my own! Most players at my club have cheesy lists such as nidzillas, and lashs with 3 vindicators to a all jetbike seer counsil the lists go on, all of which I've been on the other side of the table to.

But 9 Obliterators is not the solution. I'd take about 6 of them and get some more variety into the list.

Inigo Montoya wrote:HQ - 310
155 – Deamon Prince: Wings, Mark Of Slannesh and Lash Of Submission.
155 – Deamon Prince: Wings, Mark Of Slannesh and Lash Of Submission.

TROOPS - 732
266 – 7 Plague Marines: Aspiring champ w/ pf, 2 Plasmaguns, Rhino
233 – 6 Plague Marines: Aspiring champ w/ pf, 2 Melta guns, Rhino
233 – 6 Plague Marines: Aspiring champ w/ pf, 2 melta guns, Rhino

HEAVY SUPPORT - 450
150 – 2 Obliterators
150 – 2 Obliterators
150 – 2 Obliterators

Total: 1492
Total No: 30(3)
Kill Pts: 11

There you go.
Nothing wrong with hiding behind big guns, THAT IS WHY THEY ARE THERE!
All of the whining pisses me off. In a friendly game you would be a butt for playing this. In a tournament there is no reason not to.
Somewhere some whiny girlyman reinterpreted sportsmanship to reflect the build and not the player. The build has nothing to do with sportsmanship and getting docked as such is ludicrous.

PanzerSmurf wrote:One look at this list, and I know enough... This is the legacy of the last codex's Iron warriors. I have faced this army on many occasions at tourneys, and you get a big fat 0 for sportsmanship from me!

Inigo Montoya wrote:
All of the whining pisses me off. In a friendly game you would be a butt for playing this. In a tournament there is no reason not to.
Somewhere some whiny girlyman reinterpreted sportsmanship to reflect the build and not the player. The build has nothing to do with sportsmanship and getting docked as such is ludicrous.

em_en_oh_pee wrote:Play what works for you, be it "cheese" or not. Don't play a weak list because people whine. Play a good list and make them better players by forcing them to learn how to deal with it.

BrockSamson wrote:

em_en_oh_pee wrote:Play what works for you, be it "cheese" or not. Don't play a weak list because people whine. Play a good list and make them better players by forcing them to learn how to deal with it.

It's easy to tell people to "learn to deal with it" but actually doing that can be difficult when you're stuck with an old and incompatible codex that leaves most of your army broken or underpowered. In many cases all you can do is learn to deal with the fact that you can't possibly win.

DJ66 wrote:If the rhino moved, your plasma guns only have range 12" same as metlas. That said, I much prefer plasma weaponry on PMs. Because, when they blow up (which they always do) you get a 3+/4+ save against it. Even Oblits don't get that. Something to consider.

em_en_oh_pee wrote:That list IS perfect. It should be stickied, so people who post TwinLash builds can just copypasta that sucker. It would be easier that way, I think.

Proiteus wrote:Most of you keep complaining about how over used this list is, I went to the GT finals yesterday and there were only two list similar to this. The most used army was orks using 4 Battlewagons, KFF, Mega Nobs and Graz leading the charge, I couldn't go 3 tables without seeing this army setup. It was like how the Iron Warriors were before the current codex.