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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm considering taking a revenant titan to the adepticon gladiator but I'm not sure how it works.<br /> <br /> Eldar holofields:<br /> <br /> Titans that move get to discard hits on a 4+. The last sentence says it doesn't get this holo-field <u>save</u> if it didn't move the previous turn.<br /> <br /> BBB:<br /> Models with more than one save. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>pp</span> 24 speaks of models with armor saves, invulnerable and cover saves, and that models only get one of these saves, but's particular about these types of saves. <br /> <br /> Adepticon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>APOC</span>.96K.01 – Q: Is an Eldar Titan Holo-field a cover<br /> save and can it be used against close combat attacks?<br /> A: An Eldar Titan Holo-field is not a cover save (it is actually<br /> taken right after a ‘hit’ is scored) and is indeed used against<br /> any type of hit [<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(111);'>RAW</span>].<br /> <br /> So is it safe to say that an eldar titan that moved into a position where it would get cover would get a 4+ holo field save against the hit and then I would then get a 4+ if it pen/glanced.<br /> <br /> So it would work like armored plates and customer force field or an armor save and bionics?<br /> <br /> Part 2.<br /> <br /> If cast fortune do I get to re roll both of these?<br /> <br /> As fortune reads, "The unit re rolls any failed saves?"<br /> <br /> Pete<br /> <br />  ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Titan Holo fields and cover saves???</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't think psychics, friendly or unfriendly, will work on a superheavy. Check the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> rulebook. If you were behind cover, you would get the 4+ for cover, and if you missed it, the 4+ for the holo field. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Getting a cover save for a titan would be...difficult, considering that you have to actually block 50% of the model from the shooter's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:06:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Centurian99 wrote:</cite>Getting a cover save for a titan would be...difficult, considering that you have to actually block 50% of the model from the shooter's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>.  </div></blockquote><br /> I'm not so much into the apocalypse rules but I think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFFs</span> works. Revenants are 800 points, having a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> in a Falcon, Truck or whatever near don't seem like a bad choice. I'm sure there are freebooter meks so fluffwise it's no prob.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:18:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Webbe]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In response to question 2 - You do not get to cast fortune on a titan (shame really I'd have loved to on more than one occasion).<br /> <br /> In the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> rulebook it states that Psychic powers have no effect on Superheavy vehicles.<br /> <br /> As for question one, wouldn't you need to cover 50% of the torso as you do with other walkers to get cover?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:56:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Brother Bartius wrote:</cite>In response to question 2 - You do not get to cast fortune on a titan (shame really I'd have loved to on more than one occasion).<br /> <br /> In the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> rulebook it states that Psychic powers have no effect on Superheavy vehicles.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Close. It states that Psychic Powers that do not have a Strength have no affect on Superheavy vehicles.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:37:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So it sounds like I am right that a titan in cover with fortune gets a 4+ re rollable agaisnt hits then a  4+ re rollable against glances and pens.<br /> <br /> Granted making a revenant obscured is hard but a cobra behind some grav tanks sounds very feasible. <br /> <br /> Pete]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:12:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Fortune's a psychic power without strength, so it won't affect Titans or superheavies.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:15:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wow, way to IGNORE everyone's ruling that fortune doesn't work.  You can get cover, but you can't reroll them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 Mar 2009 03:36:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spellbound]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span>. whoops. read it backwards. <br /> <br /> So I there are 2 4+ saves without re rolls. <br /> <br /> Got it. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:45:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Pdeflorio]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would also check with your group, or the person organizing the apocalypse game, about how they play the ork <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> with superheavies. <br /> <br /> Letting the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> affect superheavies is very unbalancing. We've ruled it doesn't affect them. The ork players were the main ones pushing for it. They want to use stompers, and suspect that if they popped a Mekboy with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> in each stomper, no one would show up to play against them. Just because you can be cheesey as hell in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span> doesn't mean you have to, and a lot more people want to play in the games when you don't.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:19:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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