<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Need WE Spite clarification"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Need WE Spite clarification WE player, and am in an escalation league atm. We're currently at 750 paint/play points. My overall goal is to field Drycha's army when we reach the 2kpt threshold.

I have a few questions about Spites for Branchwraiths at my current level. I've just fielded two BW as my hero's, but read the section about spites restrictions in a WE Army. I've checked the WE FAQ which was just updated last month, but I didn't see this clarified.

Basically, spites can be choosen like magic items and BW have a limit of 50pts. It further states in the rule that each particular spite choice can only be chosen once in an army and each character can only have 1.

The confusion I'm having is since I'm using BW instead of Elves, it states "BW may have any number of Spites, to the limit of their allowance".

So my question is: Can I take two of the same spite in this army? I have two BW in my current army and am trying to take a Spite of Radiants on each (giving me a total of 1 extra dispell die for each BW) since I can't have more than one type of spite per character.

Drycha has a special rule that allows her to take 2 of the same spites.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618109.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618109.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
Ask your group.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618114.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618114.page GMT Re:Need WE Spite clarification
if you read the text it says ¨each particular spite choice may only be chosen once in an army¨ the rest about numbers of spites is still subject to this sentence.

in regards to drycha, she is a special character which is why she has two custers of radiants.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618276.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618279.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
Another case of "bad wording" as it falls at the end of the rule . . . Which is why I'm asking.

I've seen battle reports with those fielding BW as taking any number of spites but wanted to make sure.

I'd call the trollz but I'd rather not . . .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618375.page GMT Re:Need WE Spite clarification the second part of the rule does not over ride the first. they both must be applied. you can´t pick and choose the rules you want to follow.

it specifically says ¨for example you can not have two models with a murder of spites in one army¨. that says MODEL not elf.

it also says you may only choose each particular spite choice once in an army. i don´t know how that can be translated to once for each branchwraith/treeman.

They are also chosen in the same manner as magic items and you are only allowed one of each magic item (except for scrolls).

yes treeman ancients and branchwraiths may have any number of spites but you still must adhere to only one of each type.

@uriels_flame. i believe the reason it hasn´t been clarified in the faq is because they do not see there to be any confusion or no one has asked them (which means no one has seemed confused enough to ask). they have however answered some fairly silly things in the faq however.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618409.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618409.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
Since most spites cost the same, I'll just make the change if I'm challenged. Otherwise, I'm taking Radiants.

This will be my first month taking two Hero's, so we'll see how the group reacts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618619.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification OT:

Most of the Wood Elf players I've seen also play Dark Angels in 40k - as do I . . .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618620.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618620.page GMT Re:Need WE Spite clarification
leighr3029 wrote:@ lord malorne
the second part of the rule does not over ride the first. they both must be applied. you can´t pick and choose the rules you want to follow.

it specifically says ¨for example you can not have two models with a murder of spites in one army¨. that says MODEL not elf.

it also says you may only choose each particular spite choice once in an army. i don´t know how that can be translated to once for each branchwraith/treeman.

They are also chosen in the same manner as magic items and you are only allowed one of each magic item (except for scrolls).

yes treeman ancients and branchwraiths may have any number of spites but you still must adhere to only one of each type.

@uriels_flame. i believe the reason it hasn´t been clarified in the faq is because they do not see there to be any confusion or no one has asked them (which means no one has seemed confused enough to ask). they have however answered some fairly silly things in the faq however.


Dead on. They are like magic items so you only get one of each per army. There is no confusion. BW's can take more than one spite because that's their thing but you aren't allowed to duplicate them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618643.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618643.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification WE. Although the thought has occured to me to give it a go and see what happens. Funny thing is i was just going to post a question about the same exact thing!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618723.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
Uriels_Flame wrote:Also wierd OT:

Most of the Wood Elf players I've seen also play Dark Angels in 40k - as do I . . .


i´m a WE player and i don´t play dark angels. i play Tau (well did. haven´t played for years)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618731.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/618731.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
nieto666 wrote:Army builder is setup wierd then because it allows to take as many spites as you want without going into the red with like magic items. Ive never bothered in takeing muiltiple spites because it just doesnt fit my way of playing my WE. Although the thought has occured to me to give it a go and see what happens. Funny thing is i was just going to post a question about the same exact thing!!


Army builder is wrong on tons of things ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619251.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619346.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619346.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619382.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
The answer to the question which many other people have pointed out is that each spite is unique within the WE army and can only be taken once per army. There should be no confusion here at all. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619558.page GMT Re:Need WE Spite clarification
Remember that Warhammer is a permissive rule set, you aren't allowed to do anything unless the rules specifically say that you can. In this case, the rules say:

1) Only one of each spite per army
2) Only one spite per character

and then the special rules for BW and TMA say:

1) Any number of spites for this character

That removes rule 2) from above, but does nothing about rule 1)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619560.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/619560.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/620688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/233626/620688.page GMT Need WE Spite clarification
Elf characters: Max one spite each.
BW & Ancients: Multiple spites allowed, up to the points allowance.
Everyone: No repeats of a given spite in the same army.

Uriels_Flame wrote:Radiants are Tree/BW only too. Overall I see both sides, though if you don't upgrade the BW to mages, then fielding this type of army only allows you 1 dispell die up to 2000pts.


Of course. Most armies only have their two base dice if they don’t take any mages for magic defense. Forest Spirits can get up to three before upgrading BWs to L1 wizards.
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