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				<description><![CDATA[ since i havent done anything yet ill post it here, rather than people getting hopes up that ive got some piccies of some of them.<br /> i want to make a few for a small project, time isnt a problem, nor is budget (within reason) i got a quote of around £40 per model from someone, since i need 14 + a character (£60) i decided against a commission sculpter.<br /> also, i must supply green stuff, 1 pack per model (so 15 packs at £4 each) gives me a total cost of: £680, which to be honest, is not worth it for any reason.<br /> <br /> so i decided to go down the path of making my own, they will confer to all pictures, having halberds with fitted bolters on the blades.<br /> now comes the fun part:<br /> <br /> 1: what parts would be of use to me? i need to find a range of small feathered wings (imp. eagle style for the helmets, im sure elves have something i can use for the actual helmet aswell.<br /> all in all, i need as many ideas for useful parts as i can get.<br /> <br /> 2: roll out decorative armour sculpting:<br /> looked on the scribor site and found a wicked trick for making decorative armour: <a href="http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,sculpting.php?id=571" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,sculpting.php?<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span>=571</a><br /> just wanted to know what results people have had from that, and how easy it is to do, also, tips would be great if you have any.<br /> <br /> 3: i need them to look ornate, as said, time is not a problem, so i can spend a while on them, i need to make sure they are to a high standard.<br /> <br /> <br /> 4: just a few random pics here to help out:<br /> <br /> <img src="http://www4.osk.3web.ne.jp/~hasinaka/cust01.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JsKZ1YCU6Z4/RwEZvI6yyzI/AAAAAAAAAWM/om62BaCNPfg/s400/custodes_01.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/custodesofholyterra/custodes_squad.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <img src="http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg148/Iacton/Custodes/4.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> this is the style i prefer:<br /> <br /> <img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2008/12/16/12943_md-Apocalypse,%20Banner,%20Custodes,%20Emperor,%20Horus%20Heresy,%20Space%20Marines,%20Warhammer%2040,000.jpg" border="0" /><br /> <br /> i would love to be able to make those ones, but the only thing i would want to change would be the bolter-halberds, just to make them seem a tad more ornate.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ This is more of a Modelling topic so I'll move it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ok krazy, i didnt put it on here as most people expect piccies from the start <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> but this is fine.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ wow, good luck doing those. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> the basic models are space marines + high elf heads. for wings, you can get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> etched brass aquilas. the rest is just greenstuff + plasticard. some other helpful parts are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(138);'>VC</span> grave guard for ornate weapons/shields and a bit more sinister wings, chaos warrior for the armoured legs and flagellants for the endless amounts of skull, scrolls, books and whatnot.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>, dave taylor who did the awesome custodes that were featured on the old <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> site is a member of dakka, so maybe he'll answer questions. <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> there used to be a huge article on the custodes on the spanish <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> site, but it seems to have been deleted.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:29:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For the heads I've seen people use both dark eldar warrior heads and high elf bits as a base, also while there are not many good bits on the dark eldar sprue there are some hair plumes that would look quite good with some trimming. As for wings n junk, raid the dark angels sprues for bigger mariney wings but the smaller feathery stuff you are probably going to have to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span>. I have a guide to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span> feathers that was handed to me by the studio guys last year at games day, i'll see if i can find it for you. looks like most of the weapons are nemnisis force weapons but maybe you could try mounting bolters to the haft of the weapon rather than on the wrist (like the old GKT). For the backpacks maybe you could try replacing the exhausts with melta gun nozzels, did this on one of my templar commanders and it turned out quite nicely, if not maybe you should try using the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> force commander packs (double eagle head).<br /> <br /> what scale are you planning? (28mm heroic or truescale?) and also, good luck ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thanks for all the advice so far <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> seems elf heads with HE decoration would work well as a base, just thinking weather or not they will be chunky enough though, may have to bulk them out a bit.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(307);'>PAGK</span>'s seem useful for the halbers, allthough ill have to remove the pad decoration.<br /> <br /> thanks warmaster, ill drop dave a pm and hope he can help me out.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> sirius: feathers, plumes, all not a problem <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> i can do most of the basics with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span>, only things i have trouble with are:<br /> <br /> *heavy detail (large amounts of detail on a small surface isnt easy)<br /> <br /> * faces: ive never really tried a human face, but scrib. has some good tips and a tutorial on it, so ill have a go.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> look like a good source for wings, anyone have a pic of the raven wing sprue atall please?<br /> <br /> <br /> as said, thanks for all the help thus far <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:54:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My custodius would melt down in shame if ever put on the same table as the ones you've shown but for the record they are here.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-518-846_Solid%20Gold%20Marines.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/images-518-846_Solid%20Gold%20Marines.html</a><br /> <br /> Right now my favorite combo is Dire avenger heads and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> robed bodies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:15:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ actually kyoto, those pics do help alot <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> been talking to Mr Dave Taylor about his custodes, and he has helped me out to no end providing pics and ideas.<br /> <br /> ill get some concepts drawn up 1st (using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> chaos warrior bodies as a base)<br /> if they dont work out too well then i think <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> or temple. bodies are the way to go, the pre-made robes will save me alot of time when it comes to sculpting my own.<br /> <br /> im now torn between heads.<br /> <br /> concept 1: slightly bulked out avenger head.<br /> <br /> concept 2: high elf armoured head, eagle on the mid section of it, and a sculpted plume on the top, how this will work out is yet to be seen.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, if your gonna think about doing it remember to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> me for ideas.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Elf heads, lots of patience, a good eye for Metallics.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(434);'>sA</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <br /> JD JD  i have a better idea!<br /> <br /> Use  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WOC</span> warrior body , <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span> armor plates on the boots.<br /> switch weapon ,  use High elf heads ( eldar looks silly )<br /> <br /> and voila!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ forgot about this project for a few days :(<br /> been playing about with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span> moulds i made for armour plates.<br /> im going for a more japanese samurai look on the armour details.<br /> ill get some pics up soon, waiting for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad to turn up before i can do it though since test fits were done on black reach <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines.<br /> <br /> <br /> luna, i will be using high elf heads hun, dont worry <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> the ones from the silver helms box look pretty good <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> going to try and find a way to fit in the lions aswell from the high elf range <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> why? because i like them, and it should fit the overall feel of the unit <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> JD JD  , made this for you<br /> <br /> <a href='http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/25706-%3AD.html'><img src='http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/4/2/25706-%3AD.jpg'  ></a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ awwwww, thanks hun  <img src="/s/i/a/ef7b97610a8bf5b2bd5df8209dc08ff3.gif" border="0"> <br /> i owe you way too much credit when it comes to helping me with stuff <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> ill have to pick you up a birthday prezzy to say thanks this year <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> chaos termie lord legs<br /> chaos warrior body<br /> grey knight arms<br /> silver helm head<br /> <br /> <br /> well, i guess its time to order up some parts now <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> thanks again hun and i owe you big time <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span> JD , thats way too expensive o_o<br /> <br /> plastic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(505);'>AOBR</span> terminator legs would be enough and cheaper, i only chose those leg because they were facing same angle ( easier for me to photoshop)<br /> <br /> THe silver helm (wings) will provide all the wings and stars and stuff to decorate the termi legs.<br /> <br /> Do you like how it looks? i think its the best of all the no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span> kit bash.<br /> <br /> *edit<br /> <br /> as cool as the first pic  you posted was,  i still perfer broader leg armor .  Because as male counter part<br /> the thin legs looks too much like Sisters of Silence:<br /> <br /> <iframe type="text/html" width="640" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/J4NRlBctTeE?autoplay=0&origin=http://www.dakkadakka.com&fs=1" frameborder="0"></iframe><br/>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ expensive? yes <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> perfect? yes <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> ive got some black reach termies floating about in a bitz box, i think ive got a chaos warrior body or 2 about aswell.<br /> dont have the elf head, but i do have some grey knights <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> from what ive seen the silver helms sprue has some decent stuff on it i can use.<br /> <br /> i love how it looks <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> hence why i would be willing to build it like your pic you made <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> and thanks again for that <img src="/s/i/a/ef7b97610a8bf5b2bd5df8209dc08ff3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> 1 thing i may change though is the spear / blade.<br /> custodes had the bolters built into them, but the silver helms lances should help for a base, then the blades from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>'s and standard bolters.<br /> <br /> all in all i think its the best way of doing them thanks to that pic, which you will be getting a prezzy for as ive been stuck for ages on these <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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