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				<title>Lash vs Nob bikers...who wins?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I know that these are the two biggest tournament armies in the US right now so i was just wondering in your opinion which would win if they were both being used by good veteren players?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:43:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Lash vs Nob bikers...who wins?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'd say the pressure is on Nob Bikers since they're essentially helpless and have no way to stop a Lash. <br /> <br /> They have to hope for either failed Psy-checks or minimal distance moved.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:03:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think Lash has the upper hand 4+ cover saves aren't THAT great.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:59:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Probably going to go with lash on this one too...<br /> But alot comes down to luck (we're rolling dice here people) <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ,a few failed psychic checks and the nobz might just get the upper hand. <br /> With average dice rolls on both side, Lash <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:18:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, in a Mike Mutscheller (dual lash) vs. Marc Parker (nob bikers) matchup at baltimore, honors went to Mike with Dual Lash.  <br /> <br /> Of course, in our AAR (sitting around discussing the game afterwards, we decided that Marc made one critical error, and that was moving his squad of boyz up to support the nobs.  That let Mike lash them into position, and create a massive assault involving nearly every model from both sides.  With the boyz squad taking huge casualties, combat res was a huge factor.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:49:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Lash vs Nob bikers...who wins?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was particularly curious about this post as I have recently been playing nob bikers. I was wondering though, wouldn't the bikers get a 3+ cover save if they turbo boosted on the turn before they got lashed? That would help a lot more with the cover saves and maybe put them in a better position to get into assault the following turn. Just curious about what people think about that?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:41:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No saves against lash.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:03:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Lash vs Nob bikers...who wins?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I was speaking towards the bikers getting a 3+ save versus the shooting they will be taking after they were lashed. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:51:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ demonhunter23]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In that case, yes.  As I've usually seen it though, lash is used as a tool to make assaults tougher for the nob bikers.  <br /> <br /> Lash them into a conga-line, where only one or two models can get charged, and even after pile-in, only 3-4 models can strike.  Nob bikers lose on combat res.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Centurian99]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think it depends on the lists used to support each.<br /> So far, all I know is that you're going to have lash in one force, and Nob bikers in the other.<br /> <br /> I have an Ork Biker Nob (based) list that's ALSO balanced that I'd be happy to put up against any dual lash list.<br /> <br /> Eric]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:37:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ MagickalMemories]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nob Bikers are at the mercy of duel Lash lists.  Orks have to hope for a blown psychic test or a low roll of the lash results.  That being said it's not a done deal for the Lashers.  They have to make 3-4 Lashes in a row and make sure the results are not 2-4 inches in most cases.  It is also true the lash lists must be built to take advantage of the Lashes and against Nob Bikers it isn't all about shooting them.<br /> <br /> You will want to Lash one untit away and Lash one unit into an assault it can't win.  Twin <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> Chaos Dreads are your best bet for this as they will make short work of the Nob Bikers.  Chaos rolls don't need to be perfect, they just can't be bad and you should clean house with combat resolution and wipe out the whole squad.<br /> <br /> Against a more balanced Ork list you won't have the immediate threat of two Nob Biker units to contend with.  If there is only one unit you can wait for it and easily pick it apart.  The rolls don't need to be good either as you have 2 Lashers to make sure the job gets done this time.  A more balanced list might have Lootas which will need to be Lashed out of the back line and into Plasmacannon formation.  Or the Chaos player can just shield themselves behind a wall of rhino's.  BW assault will have to be shot down by the Oblits as usual.<br /> <br /> It's not a clear cut 100% win for Chaos, but the Orks have to hope for bad rolls and rarely can take the initiative in such a battle.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:54:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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