s1gns wrote:I already have the Blood Angels Codex downloaded and such.

Dronze wrote:

s1gns wrote:I already have the Blood Angels Codex downloaded and such.

Aside from the fact that their codex is no longer valid in a tournament setting, you need to be beaten with a shoe.

BUY YOUR OWN BOOKS!



It can't possibly be that difficult to realize that piracy is kinda, well, wrong.

Dronze wrote:

Aside from the fact that their codex is no longer valid in a tournament setting, you need to be beaten with a shoe.

BUY YOUR OWN BOOKS!



It can't possibly be that difficult to realize that piracy is kinda, well, wrong.

Yeah. For cost effectiveness, take a rhino with the DC. Jump packs are just too expensive and they don't offer additional protection like a rhino does.

Therefore, your "free" DC marine is not free.

Should I put PF's on my sergeants in my squads?

I think the best way to go with BA is a mechanized list that has a couple of jump infantry units. Jump infantry uses the rhinos to hide until they are close enough to charge. As Mahu has pointed out tactical squads are the BA workhorse... They are much better at holding objectives than assault squads and you can take heavy weapons and assault weapons. I run two full tactical squads and one full assault squad all in rhinos. I just run a meltagun and power fist in my tactical squads but I can definitely see a place for cheap lascannons in these squads. The assault squad is my shock troop... I can afford to lose them but they force my opponents to react to them.

Mahu wrote:

I think the best way to go with BA is a mechanized list that has a couple of jump infantry units. Jump infantry uses the rhinos to hide until they are close enough to charge. As Mahu has pointed out tactical squads are the BA workhorse... They are much better at holding objectives than assault squads and you can take heavy weapons and assault weapons. I run two full tactical squads and one full assault squad all in rhinos. I just run a meltagun and power fist in my tactical squads but I can definitely see a place for cheap lascannons in these squads. The assault squad is my shock troop... I can afford to lose them but they force my opponents to react to them.

I agree.

I tend to run two full tactical squads in Rhinos and a full 10-man Assault Squad with Jump Packs. I usually pair the Assault Squad with a Large Jumping Death Company Squad for mutual support.

Unless you are really good with Rhinos, hiding Assault Marines are usually problematic, with true line of sight justifying targeting them more. I have found that you either have to support them with additional Jump Units or you hold them back and just use them to "retake" your home field objective late game.

I also run a five man DC squad with Brother Corbulo in a rhino as well. I get all five DC Marines paid for by taking five other squads and only have to pay additional for their rhino. To be honest DC with jump packs are more powerful since they can cover more ground quickly and charge but because I run Corbulo the rhino approach is best for my style. The DC in a rhino is still a strong unit in assault and they can kill just about anything if you roll well for their rending attacks. I also use them as another shock troop but I hold them back until the latter stages of the game. A small squad does best when the enemy has been thinned down.

I have found small units of Death Company to be lackluster, especially in the face of what you can tend to face on the table top. Death Company are usually either a small suicide unit, or a big game changer unit. But that is just me, I tend to not find rending all that great, your results may vary, but I find putting Death Company on "softer" target to be better and use units like Terminators with a lot of high str. attacks tackle the big stuff.

Our rhinos have OCE which is a huge advantage BA have over vanilla Marines. You should be able to get on top of objectives early in the game which puts the pressure on your opponent. It is very to dig out a squad of ten tactical Marines sitting on top of an objective when they are hiding behind their rhino. This is one of the main reasons why I run mine with meltaguns... It's very easy to roll up and execute a drive-by attack on enemy armor.

I agree but I have also found use in Flamers, but I play against a lot of Orks (and soon a lot of IG).

Anti-tank in my list usually comes in the form of Attack Bikes, Meltaguns, Land Raider Crusaders, Vindicators, and good old close combat.

JD21290 wrote:i know GBF, but i would use them as a drop suicide unit if it ment taking out an enemy land raider in the process

BA is the ultimate assault army when it comes to marines.

Mahu wrote:

2. The use of small squads - I generally dislike small squads for a few reasons. They are very fragile in assault, they tend to raise your kill point amount, and they tend to be not very effective, at least in my hands. I understand why he does it, he brings multiple squads to keep his DC "free", I disagree with this philosophy.

Feldmarshal Goehring wrote:
Have you thought about working up jump packs and back packs with magnets so that you can run your assault squads and DC both ways. Run them as infantry in Rhinos one game, and run them as jump infantry another game.

Options, man. Options . . .

0ldsk00l wrote:I have magnetized my JPs on my assault troopers. I haven't magnetized the normal backpacks yet because I havent had a game where I actually wanted them in a rhino instead of jumping along on their own.

s1gns wrote:Where and what type of magnets did you get cygnnus?

FoxPhoenix135 wrote:BTW, right size being 1/16" x 1/32" round.