<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "How should champion/veterans be reworked?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net How should champion/veterans be reworked?
Any other thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/639534.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/639534.page GMT Re:How should champion/veterans be reworked?
i do think most cav champions are too expensive for what is really +1 attack. e.g. tomb kings chariot champion is 20points. who wants to pay 20 points for +1 attack when two equals a whole chariot.
they can take and issue challenges however which is the greatest strength they have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/639988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/639988.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? cr.

I can't really think of any improvements that would be sensible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/640280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/640280.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641127.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641127.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641206.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641206.page GMT Re:How should champion/veterans be reworked? BS, like High Elf archers, and that would be fine for Dwarf thunderers and quarrellers, rather than a second attack. But these ranged units need something because it is not worth 10 points to make one a veteran when there are no bonuses for the main purpose of the unit. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641261.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641261.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? LD would be a nice addition to champions.

It would make ranged fire champs more of a consideration.

It improves rally options with musicians. (If you have your leader -and- your drum beating, it only stands to reason that you have a better chance at rallying.)

It does put some odd issues in with demons and undead, improving instability tests and crumbling, and I'm not sure that side effect would be warrented.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641367.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/641367.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? LD in Fantasy is too significant a boost for that champion. And as a Dwarf player, while it would be nice to get that +1 BS, it *is* kinda characterful to have +1 A instead.

I'm curious on the "guarantees attacks back" bit. I guess I haven't played in some time, but I always thought you could designate some attacks to go to the champion. In other words, always makes sense to throw at least one, in case you kill him, but that way there's no lost wounds if you throw to many. Am I wrong on this?

RZ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648300.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648830.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked?
RZ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648947.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648947.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked? Or they can just give the champions double the amount of attack the unit has. So for the units with 2 attacks, champion would get 4 instead of 3 and so on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/648950.page GMT Re:How should champion/veterans be reworked? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/655506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/655506.page GMT How should champion/veterans be reworked?
LunaHound wrote:
Or they can just give the champions double the amount of attack the unit has. So for the units with 2 attacks, champion would get 4 instead of 3 and so on.


That would be terrifying, because then heroes would have to have a higher attack value as a way to distinguish them from champions.. But I really like the idea of a Scar Veteran getting 5-6 strength 5 attacks without any extras. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/660173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/660173.page GMT Re:How should champion/veterans be reworked?
Champs can be killed and once they are dead they stay dead. No one becomes a unit champ out of no where..



Unless you're VC in which case means endless streams of Ghasts wearing down your hero after being killed and summoned again.

Maybe putting champs in the same boat as the beastmen Wargor, giving them +1 strength, attack and LD?

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I'll stick with that thank you very much!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/676398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234877/676398.page GMT