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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640305.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640305.page GMT Re:land raider str. Also the machine spirit allows you to fire one weapon even when shaken/stunned. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640360.page GMT land raider SM or CSM FOC can take 6! Put that in you flamer and smoke it!

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I fought 3 at once one was imobilied with a chaos dreadnaught 1 was destroyed by my defilier and the 3rd lost both lascannons and was imobilized 1 inch from contesting the objective last turn by my plague marienes

its not hard if you have the stuff to kill them but you have to work on them saving other guys]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640836.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640836.page GMT Re:land raider LR being destroyed once and taking out all the guns. Depends how you use it.

I've used three at once before. It's great fun although limits your options during a battle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640844.page GMT Re:land raider LR was considerably strengthened with version 5 rules.

The new variants are also nasty.

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-3 Land Raiders

Yes, used correctly, Land Raiders are AWESOME.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640879.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640879.page GMT land raider ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640929.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640929.page GMT land raider

Gwar! wrote:If playing marines, drop podding a Sternguard squad with Combimeltas is a fun "up yours" way of dealing with a Land Raider

Make sure you've got plenty of Drop Pods then, cause a fun way of dealing with drop podding sternguard is simply stay in reserve and wait for them to come onto the board 1st turn...then come on and assault them out of the LR.

I unclog my nose at drop pods.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640940.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640940.page GMT land raider
Just the result I was looking for!

And I could always keep my Sternies in the second wave of Pods and have a "lets see who cocks up their reserve dice rolls first" war.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640950.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640950.page GMT land raider

Gwar! wrote:yes, but then you've gone and lost between 1 and 4 turns of your big expansive land raider doing anything.

Just the result I was looking for!

Just like the expensive Sternguard?

And I could always keep my Sternies in the second wave of Pods and have a "lets see who cocks up their reserve dice rolls first" war.

So basically, sternguard dont have an advantage over LR's...which can pop smoke. Suicide Sternguard make me chuckle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640984.page GMT land raider

Personally I much Prefer venerable Dreadnoughts with Multimeltas (if Playing Nilla) or Ironclads (when Playing Wolves) to bust up AV 14]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/640990.page GMT land raider

Gwar! wrote:hey I never said it was effective did I

Personally I much Prefer venerable Dreadnoughts with Multimeltas (if Playing Nilla) or Ironclads (when Playing Wolves) to bust up AV 14

No, but you DID imply that Sternguard (or drop pods in general) were an easy way to deal with LR's. I was simply saying that its not neccessarily a forgone conclusion when the LR user guards against it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/641121.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/641121.page GMT land raider AV 14, plenty of las, nice transport for solid CC troops.

it fills all roles and a few armies struggle to even slow them down.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/641126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/641126.page GMT land raider Depends on what the fark you're doing with it, and how your enemy reacts to it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/641137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/641137.page GMT land raider Space Marine White Eagles Army List 1500 pts.
HQ:
Space Marine Chapter Master (Master of the Watch): 125
Artificer Armor: 15
Storm Shield: 15
Melta Bombs: 5
Thunder Hammer: 10 Total: 165 pts.
Troops:
20 Space Marines: 340
2 Flamers, Heavy Bolter, Missile Launcher (No Cost)
2 Power Swords: 30 Total: 370 pts.
Elites:
5 Terminators: 200
4 Chain fists: 20 Total: 220 pts.
Fast Attack:
4 Bikers: 115
Multi-Melta: 10
Attack Bike: 40 Total: 165 pts.
Heavy Support:
Land Raider: 250
5 Devastators: 90
Heavy Weapons: 90
Power Sword: 15
Plasma Pistol: 15
Vindicator: 115 Total: 575 pts.

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Perturabo's Chosen wrote:You think that one is bad, imagine if you had to fight 2, or even 3? A standard SM or CSM FOC can take 6! Put that in you flamer and smoke it!

I hate to burst your bubble, but the most you could possibly take is 5.

1 - transport a single normal Terminator squad.
1 - transport a single Assault Terminator squad.
3 - Heavy Support choices.

The codex states that in each of the listings for the Terminator squads.

I mean its not a real big difference but I'd rather face 5 and not 6, that's for sure.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/642592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/642592.page GMT land raider DH/WH inqusitiors.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/642627.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/642627.page GMT land raider
Or playing Black Templars

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Fexor wrote:

Perturabo's Chosen wrote:You think that one is bad, imagine if you had to fight 2, or even 3? A standard SM or CSM FOC can take 6! Put that in you flamer and smoke it!

You could then take an allied HQ and elite IQ and get 2 more, bringing the total to 7.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/643102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/643102.page GMT land raider HQ's]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/643740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/643740.page GMT land raider
The answer to your single line was posted long ago, it being "Depends on what you do with it."

To answer your second question:
Use it to transport the Terminators perhaps?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/643997.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/643997.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644177.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644177.page GMT land raider

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:All I know is that in 5th it's not necessarily about destroying vehicles, but keeping them from being useful. Playing bugs I don't have much of a chance of destroying anything but my venom cannons do a great job of keeping them from moving their valuable cargo, which is just as good as having the thing destroyed. Instead of taking antiarmour I've just been pumping more men into the ranks because, if we're honest, 5th is all about infantry.

Yup, its once of the reasons Extra Armour was repriced to 15 points, since while the transports are all cheaper now, if they cant move, they are just as useless (hence why rolling a 6 for a glancing hit on T1 is just so satisfying).

Nids did get a bit of a boost in 5th with stealers being able to always hit the (usualy) AV10 rear armour, but as always have problems with anything Av14 (and the poor Stealers cant ever scratch land Raiders now unless you buy toxin sacs, and even then you have to roll a lot of sixes :()

And its about infantry now, just wait till Guard comes out. I reckon we'll be seeing a Lot more Russes and Chimeras about.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644187.page GMT land raider
Raiders are great, but only in certain situations... Transporting terminators is great but I find them easy to avoid.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644256.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644256.page GMT land raider
Land Raiders (AV14 in general) seem to also be very good.

Use it to transport your Terminators + Chapter Master if you want to take one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644341.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644361.page GMT land raider LRs, all packed with regular ol' Grey Knights/Inquisitors. THAT'S how you role with LRs lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/644377.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/645760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/645760.page GMT land raider

I've found out (reading the Codex) that as Black Templars, if you take 1 command squad, 3 Terminator squads, and 6 troops, you can legally take out about 13 Land Raiders / Land Raider Crusaders under a force organization chart if you're willing to pay the points for them.

LOL... talk about a nice little tank division to roll out with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/646318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/646318.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/646431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/646431.page GMT land raider

Zro1312 wrote:im basically using the land raider for its armor value of 14 and the twin linked lascannons. Are there any better choices if im using it for firepower and armor.

Yes, quie a few actually.

Theres Predators. You can take 3 with Autocannons for 180 points, or 2 with TL lascannons for 205. Harder for your opponent to kill (2 targets) and can split fire eaier.

Or Vindicators.

Granted they arnet 14 all around, but if your just using them for lascanons and keeping them back, they'll only be hitting front armour 13 anyway]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/646434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/646434.page GMT land raider
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Since you are also considering Land Raiders (I'd suggest the Crusader variant), my advice would be to take Ironclad Dreadnoughts instead of the regular ones. Their higher AV combined with that of the Land Raider will overload the opponents heavy anti-tank weaponry (melta's, lances, str9+ guns).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/649099.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/649099.page GMT land raider AT every shot is vital.

I'd also suggest the crusader too.... It's a wicked combination and with the transport capacity they're great.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/649187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/649187.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650253.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650253.page GMT land raider

Zro1312 wrote:i was gonna take either 2 dreadnaughts with lascannons or a land raider or another terminator squad. Any help on which one to take?

I guess it depends on your army and playing style.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650255.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650255.page GMT Re:land raider TBH, I like the Crusader the best. with so many shots it's really anti-troop, and the addition of a Multi-melta helps against the MC's and tanks that you will fight when you transport your Termies to their lines. Mmmmmm... TL Assault Cannon...

-A.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650352.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650352.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650756.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650809.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650848.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/650848.page GMT land raider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/651407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/651407.page GMT Re:land raider
But in response to the OP;

Yes. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/651414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/651414.page GMT land raider
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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/652892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/652892.page GMT Re:land raider Mmm.. Check your internet settings, try not to download when posting..erm.. only press the 'send' button once every 5mins (not three times in 20 seconds) and your questions depends entirely on what you want to do.

Landraiders allow sternguard to move in protected, unload & shoot in rapid fire ranges whilst Landraiders also allow for vanguard to move in close, unload and charge somthing all the while being incased by AV14. It entirely depends what you want to do with them. Its a good idea to perhaps try and make the most of their assault-hatches. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/652912.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/652912.page GMT land raider Mmmm... Spam-tastic.

But to answer your questions:

Land Raiders:
I'm sorry, the correct answer was Land Raider Crusader. And yes, they are that awesome.

Sternguard v. Vanguard :

Well, really it depends on the situation and your playstyle. For example, Sternguard are great for shooting things that you would like to die. On the other hand, Vanguard are preferable when you feel like having a deep strike mishap.

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DebonaireToast wrote: On the other hand, Vanguard are preferable when you feel like having a deep strike mishap.

But yes, Land Raiders are crap. Land Raider Crusaders are the best thing since evolution decided that a high amount of nerve endings on the edge of naughty parts was a good way to get things to breed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/652969.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/652969.page GMT land raider LRs are TRANSPORTS. Meltas are the bane of LRs so expect to use the LR to get the right troops in the right place by turn two. If your LR isn't expendable after that to your specific army list then you may want to consider different tactics/list.

I have had my LR stunned/shaken at inopportune times more than I want to say. Every time it happened cause I got greedy and blew something to smithereens with TL Las but then had a swarm of raptors with melta up my A**]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/653095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/234918/653095.page GMT