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				<description><![CDATA[ Demon prince <br /> wings <br /> mark of slaanesh <br /> Lash of submission <br /> <br /> <br /> Chaos Sorcerer <br /> Mark of slaanesh<br /> Lash of submission <br /> <br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> <br /> 3 units Obliterator cult<br /> 2 units of 3<br /> 1 unit of 2<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Noise marines 3 squads<br /> 1st = 9 marines <br /> all with sonic blasters <br /> except 1 in squad with a blastmaster <br />  <br /> 2nd = 10 marines <br /> all with sonic blasters<br /> except 1 with blastmaster <br /> and champion + doomsiren <br />  <br /> 3rd = 10<br /> all with sonic blasters<br /> except 1 with blastmaster<br /> and champion + doomsiren + power fist<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 2 Apr 2009 01:51:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>First attempt at 1850 csm please help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Can I get a little help with this army list please, ideas, thoughts from veteran players?  I'd like to keep it to one god for the fluff of it all, but if that is unrealistic let me know.  Thanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 03:51:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Lash plus obliterators works, and works well. What else do you need to know?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 04:09:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:First attempt at 1850 csm please help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Drop the Blastmasters from the Champ squads and use the points to get them a ride.  If you're going to use an "ultra cheese set-up", at least follow the sacred number of Slaanesh (6). ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 05:27:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RustyKnight]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ agree with extrenm, 2 lashes and 8 oblits is going to win you alot of games, but not alot of friends. i would at least get a power weapon on the unit champs in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(526);'>NM</span> squads.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:31:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ studderingdave]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd replace the Sorcerer with a winged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> are easier to use effectively. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 13:11:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<title>Re:First attempt at 1850 csm please help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Nothing much to advise here. Its the standard  <img src="/s/i/a/fd71d655ed1170b5e731d23d94924695.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Like people said above, you will win a lot, but a lot of people won't like/want to play you. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 16:17:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Guess i'm just trying to keep with some of the fluff of this, hence why i'm not taking anything of a different god.  By the fluff of it I can't see two demons princes working together especially not of slaanesh or on such a small scale.<br /> <br /> I had rhinos in my army originally but then I got to thinking with only 2 or 3 rhinos they aren't going to be on the table long.  Rhinos aren't heavily armored as it is and with such a low count on it ALL the anti armor fire is gonna be on them first turn, and it doesn't take much to drop them. so if i am lucky and get the first move i'll get to move my rhinos once before they are popped.  If my list contained a bit more heavy armor firepower i.e. vindicators/predators/defilers I would invest in rhinos, too bad I already bought the models.<br /> <br /> Why the power weapon on the champion?<br /> <br /> Thank you all for your replies]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:02:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jwaz]]></author>
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				<title>Re:First attempt at 1850 csm please help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Just gunna say, dropping down your squads to favored number would EASILY get you the points for Rhinos, slaanesh marines are very mobile and I would use that to your advantage. Even if you don't want to do this, your army will be mobile and powerful for a shooty army due to the double lash  getting units close enough to obliterate them one by one. One unit can be piled up and hit with 3x Plasma Cannons, another brought up into range of up to 90 shots from your marines. Your army can pick apart their army VERY well. Charging at them head on will be your utter anihilation, but using cover and brining units to you and taking them out with Blast weapons will be your best move. You could easily obliterate 2 full marine squads a turn if the lashes go out, and still have another 5 lascannon shots if you want... Since Sonic Blaster can be heavy 3, if an enemy is charging you, they will take a LOT of firepower from your marines. <br /> <br /> There isn't really anything else you could do to improve this list other than mechanize it. (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>, rhinos are very resilient if you use smoke and cover right!) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:01:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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