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Seeing as I had nothing to do for a while, I decided to make modable hw bases for my IG force. Mainly it so that I can remove them when they go into buildings or if there are blast weapons abound, and with the upcoming codex, the teams have to be mounted on one base. To make it, I drilled holes into a normal base, using a pedestal drill in my school's DT department, I then glued a bit of card to the bottom, and trimmed it using scissors and later a file. GS was squished into place around the holes. Before all this I had sanded the base flat in line with my army's basing, and after all that, I went and scored the lines, added some cardboard to put in a small step and glued random bits to the ground. The process didn't take too long, only an afternoon and 10 minutes of my lunch break, but that was just because I wasn't entirely sure what I was doing. This sort of thing has been done before, with removable loaders etc, and it's obviously not viable with the normal way that the teams are assembled, but is it really that great an effect to go do over an entire army (probably going to have quite a few more bases eventually)?


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The loader has his own separate base where he's sitting up against some ruins.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651101.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651188.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651188.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651228.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651228.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651234.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651234.page GMT Is it worth it?
These really look great, well done ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651238.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651238.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651239.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651239.page GMT Is it worth it?
assultmarine wrote:DO A TUTIORSAL I BEG U


Well, I did describe what I did in the OP, and it does involve using a special cutting thingy for a drill, but sure, next time I try it, I'll take and post pictures

ph34r wrote:Honestly, I did the same thing and just as I neared completion... the new codex came out. I now regret spending all that time modding bases, and I would not recommend doing it knowing what the new codex brings.


Yeah, I know what's coming. Mainly I play in casual games, and the people won't really mind. This is just for if people get shirty. I probably will though, as it keeps me occupied between the drips of miniatures I buy. Well done for doing it for an entire army though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651250.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651306.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651306.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651397.page GMT Is it worth it?
ph34r wrote:Honestly, I did the same thing and just as I neared completion... the new codex came out. I now regret spending all that time modding bases, and I would not recommend doing it knowing what the new codex brings.

Even with the new Codex you will still need to track wounds on the model. I think its a more characterful solution than wound markers or dice on the base.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651505.page GMT Re:Is it worth it? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/651649.page GMT Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/652202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/652202.page GMT Re:Is it worth it? hw team, and school goes back tomorrow, so I should have a tutorial up soon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/686988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/686988.page GMT Is it worth it? 40k for a whole squad.. make those apocalypse battles go a bit quicker!

Very nicely modelled too =)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/687016.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/687016.page GMT Re:Is it worth it? gd ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688134.page GMT Re:Is it worth it?
da-chaos-orks wrote:You do realise that heavy bolters gona be throwing red hot shells on that guy whos sat down..other than that its all gd


Not possible, even though they have ejection ports, and shell casings layaing all over the place, the fluff CLEARLY states they fire self-propelled, caseless, mini-rockets....

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Any links to your statement?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688831.page GMT Re:Is it worth it? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688838.page GMT Is it worth it?
The shells do explode just after impact. So basically your gun fires missles (or rockets to be more exact, but the fluff calls it missles, dunno why) that penetrate the enemy and explode, blasting the enemy apart from the inside or, if hes lucky, blowing a large chunk out of his armor.

So everyone is a little right.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/688868.page GMT Re:Making modable IG hw teams. Now with tutorial.
With the first one that I made, I hadn't done anything to the hw base before I started, apart from file it flat. As I was doing something a wee bit different this time, the base already had half an old sentinel base stuck to it.



This didn't change much, except that this time, I only drilled one hole and I drilled from the bottom side this time. Which is what you should do anyway to avoid making any marks if the clamp slips. And it will prevent warping from the pressure of the drill.

I used the pedestal drill in my school's DT department, using one of the circular blades the same size as a small base (50mm). You could probably do it with some clamping and a steady hand using a normal drill, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you insert a normal drill piece in the middle of the blade to steady it (sorry I don't have pictures to explain this better, I only thought of it now).





With this drilled, I cut out a piece of card to around the right size, glued it on, using the rim and the cylinders that stick out of the bottom, and trimmed it to the correct size.




I then went and stuffed greenstuff in the gaps around the hole I drilled, smoothing it out using the circle bit on a sculpting tool. (It wasn't particularly neat, but I still got it smoother than what is shown in the picture)



And test it until right.



And that's how you make these bases. Bear in mind that I only made them for hw teams, so that they can spread out, or you can use them as wound markers. Also, this works just as well for two people.

And now, for the rest of the construction of the team.





Hope this helps.



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Hordicant wrote:
da-chaos-orks wrote:You do realise that heavy bolters gona be throwing red hot shells on that guy whos sat down..other than that its all gd


Not possible, even though they have ejection ports, and shell casings layaing all over the place, the fluff CLEARLY states they fire self-propelled, caseless, mini-rockets....




Just a little trivia tidbit, GW doesn't print it anywhere I've ever seen, but the basis for bolter weapons is real weapon called a gyrojet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

They wouldn't really be ejection ports, it's a maintenance port for cleaning/unjamming the weapon, and possibly for manually loading specialty rounds without removing the whole magazine. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/689060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/689060.page GMT Making modable IG hw teams. Now with tutorial.
It pretty much gets over the problems reported in the Wikipedia page over short range ineffectiveness and problems getting the round to leave the gun

Bolter rounds have always been bi-propellant and always indicated with rather large shell casings that would need an ejection port.

Autocannon and their ilk (assault cannon, etc), however, are supposed to be caseless hence the artwork that normally shows them pouring out brass are a little off.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/689754.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/689754.page GMT Making modable IG hw teams. Now with tutorial. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/690083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/690083.page GMT Making modable IG hw teams. Now with tutorial.
Myrlyn wrote:I plan on doing the same kind of thing with my heavy weapons teams, only I'll be using magnets. That way I can make the weapons, loaders, shooters, and in some cases, terrain, all modular.


I've actually managed to make some of the weapons modular. They can be pulled off and replaced and whatnot. The only thing that I've found that makes this difficult is that the autocannon and the hb are the only two that have a similar enough shape. The lascannon has a different length from the pivot to the bit where the triggers go, and so it's pretty difficult to make a modable team.

Go luck with it though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/690707.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235459/690707.page GMT