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Heroes
Dwarf lord
shield bearers, great weapon, +1 as, +1 at, +1 to hit, reroll armor saves (1+ AS), master rune of challenge

runesmith
greatweapon, shield (chose each combat), 3x scroll

thane
BSB, 1+as, +1 at, +1 str, flaming attacks

thane
+1 as, +1 hit, +1 at, +1 str.

This gives me three good combat chars that are hard for anyone without killing blow to kill (one is immune to killing blow as well) as well as 5DD and three scrolls. Even the runesmith should be able to kill 1 rank and file per turn without breaking a sweat.

core
10 thunders
10 thunders
20 long beards, full cmd, rune of gruni (5+ WS against ranged and magical attacks)

Elite
20 hammers, full cmd, +1 combat res, double US
20 hammers, full cmd, +1 combat res (lord usually goes here)
bolt thrower
bolt thrower (flaming)

rare
organ gun
organ gun


This gives me a good shooting base to make sure people have to come to me and cant fiddle arround setting up perfect charges. It also gives me three good units that can stand up to most rank and file while having some pretty strong chars in there. 1 is immune to fear, one will never be outnumbered (and rarely beaten) and one protects the other two from panic and shooting.

In a game usualy the thunders will pick off rank and file trying to remove rank bonuses across the oposing army. The organ guns will mow down anyone who trys to flank the army. And the bolt throwers will damage any large creatures that get in the way.
Any thougts?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/658085.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/658085.page GMT Str 7 chariot popping goodness. I'd also try very hard to fit engineers on both your bolt throwers.

Two Organ guns isn't going to make you any friends, but frankly in the world of dark elves, Demons and VCs making friends isn't priority number 1.

I also don't think your characters are resilient enough. The rune smith has almost zero protection and your Lord has no ward. Re-rolling an armour save isn't going to help if you don't get one!!

Finally, thunderers v xbows. This argument is done to death, I prefer xbows, and in this list the points will help you out with fitting the RoP and the Engi's on the bolt throwers.

The idea is solid enough, just needs fiddling with a bit.

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A: A fast unit, so already in CC.

B: Close enough to charge next turn.

Not to discourage you though, +1 to hit is really big.

overall it looks good to me. Fix up your characters though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/662289.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/662289.page GMT
A) Rune of pen. Rune of Burning
b) Rune of burning.

That way I get one to shoot chariots with, and both of them can stop things regenerating. (Hydras, Vampires, Chaos Trolls, Nurgle beasties etc.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/662386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/662386.page GMT sv targets, so there's a problem x-bows won't present you.

RZ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/662603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/662603.page GMT
The rune of penetrating is very good but I just dont see that many chariots out there. Only one is vs a vamp friend of mine who always runs the coach.

On the thunder vs crossbows debate, the jury is still out. I have been switching back and forth and just cant decide. The crossbows underperform all the time but the extra points and no first turn shooting hurts sometime.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/665491.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/665491.page GMT
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Two organ guns is nasty, but I prefer having a gyrocopter to annoy opponents and help marchblock. Personally, I too think xbows are the way to go over thunderers, but que sera. One unit of each is a nice compromise.

That second unit of hammerers should probably have the rune that makes them immune to fear and terror, as opposed to double US. More valuable, I think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/669113.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/235981/669113.page GMT