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Battle Cannon, TL Heavy Bolter, Havoc Launcher
(Daemonic Possession)

// 155 points

Stays in a forest (4+), if it loses the Battle Cannon it fires the anti-infantry guns. It still has 3+1 attacks chargin and can Run + pop smoke for a turn if it has to go for a close combat role, or if it is moving into a close combat support role.

Thoughts? Other than take two Oblits. It has the Battle Cannon and Daemonic Possession.
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-nick ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662486.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662486.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662505.page GMT CC weapon and a heavy flamer. now, he provides fire support as well as murdering troops at close range.
I feel like your build sacrifices too much mobility/close combat potential]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662568.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662568.page GMT CC.
Max out CC arms. They will still have the BC and that's the only weapon you really want to fire. If they lose it just pop smoke and fleet. Generally by the time your opponent knocks the cannon off you are already pretty close.
BS 3 just won't cut it for a firing platform.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662747.page GMT
They DO look like crabs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662795.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662795.page GMT CC they work great against ordinary troops but if they've got powerfists there's a pretty good chance of them dying due to their lower weapon skill making them easier to hit. I've found Obliterators to be a much better choice, they can move and easily get cover saves, good resistance against missile launchers which are common anti-vehicle weaponry in space marine armies, and are good in almost every situation. Against horde armies you can use twin linked flamers, against space marines and necrons you can use plasma cannons or twin linked plasma guns, against vehicles you can use twin linked meltaguns or multi-meltas or lascannons, etc. Also in higher point games I like to max out my heavy support though of course it costs more, I'd much rather pay the extra points to run 9 obliterators than 3 defilers. If you haven't taken them already I'd rather spend the points of giving your troops powerfists or investing in another daemon prince with lash and wings. Though they work well with defilers, I personally prefer using three small blasts rather than one big one which has a good chance of missing.

Just my thoughts ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236292/662822.page GMT