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				<title>The scam thread</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So a few weeks ago, one of my neighbor's cousins came to visit her.  While in Atlanta, he met some people in a bar who "hired" him to work for their "brokerage" based on his comments regarding the economy.  When he told me this I thought "okay sounds sketchy but whatever."  Later he came to my apartment and tried to sell me on his company's services.  This is when I realized what was going on.  According to this dude, his company was not only a brokerage, but they offer pre-paid legal services.  He kept throwing numbers at me devoid of any context with which to decipher them.  He claimed that his firm offered accounting services as well.  He also said that signing up more people for the service was rewarded with cash.  He said that he was promised three hundred dollars for every person he signed up.  He was even encouraged to help people cover the fees for opening accounts with his own money.  After all "If I spend one hundred dollars to open someone's account and get three hundred back, then who's the winner there?"  He even told me that the money he was being paid with came from the money the firm was given by customers to invest.  He said that by paying for things that way the company would build capital to <i>one day</i> invest with.  Huh?!<br /> <br /> In case anyone hasn't caught on, what he was describing is to the letter what a pyramid scheme consists of.  They collect people's money promising huge returns but rather then actually invest the money, they pay it out to higher ranking members who then go brag on their returns to bring in more clients.  They company can only pay out as long as it finds more people to scam until eventually it goes bust and a few people on the top run away with a lot of money.<br /> <br /> I told the guy straight up he was being scammed and that by taking part in the project, he might open himself to prosecution.  He flatly refused to believe me.  He didn't look for any information not provided to him by the company to prove that it was legit.  Basically these people just fed him compliments about how smart he was to keep him from asking questions.  What really boggles my mind is that I don't even think he knew what this company was actually called.  He referred to it as "RINO" (or RHINO he made it sound like an acronym but who knows), as "Pre-Paid Legal" and by one or two other names.<br /> <br /> Also I've been getting calls from Long Island New York regarding the expiration of my car's warranty.  The only problem is that my car's warranty ran out nearly a decade ago.  I googled the phone number I was called from and sure enough, several consumer report websites popped up warning that it is indeed a scam.<br /> <br /> I thought it might be useful start this thread so people can give a heads up on scams as well as post any information which might help someone identify said scams and report them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:31:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BloodofOrks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I get that car warranty gak too.<br /> <br /> Never paid any attention to it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:54:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Orkeosaurus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've won the Austrialian Lottery 23 times. Each, for about 100 million. All I have to do is cash the check enclosed and send them the money.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Orkeosaurus wrote:</cite>I get that car warranty gak too.<br /> <br /> Never paid any attention to it.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It's fun to yell at the operator on the other end of the line though.  I mean they are stealing people's credit card info.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:11:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BloodofOrks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Maybe I should give it a shot.<br /> <br /> Either that or make numbers up. Hm...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:13:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Orkeosaurus]]></author>
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				<title>The scam thread</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I have a relatively fool proof way to scam your own Credit Card.<br /> <br /> First, have a Credit Card (thats me fallen at the first hurdle then).<br /> <br /> Next, use it fairly carefully for the first few months, behaving yourself and always paying off your bill in full.<br /> <br /> Then have a Holiday somewhere, ideally somewhere Foreign (Foreign is important for later in the scam). And even more ideally a country where a friend of yours happens to live.<br /> <br /> You come back off Holiday, pay off your bill. You then send your Credit Card to the person in said country, who spanks it for as much Cash and Goods as physically possible in a single month*<br /> <br /> They then post the Card back to you. When the Bill comes in for that month, you cry foul play, call up the bank and prove you were not in that country at that time, and your passport proves it. Over such a small amount, the Bank is exceedingly unlikely to investigate further.<br /> <br /> Your accomplice keeps a percentage and sends the rest of the proceeds back to you, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> company wipes the debt.<br /> <br /> Now, the only hurdle here is that most Banks are likely to challenge large withdrawals and purchases in foreign countries. But this is why you go to said country initially, so make it appear mildly less suspicous.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:22:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mad Doc Grotsnik]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The scam thread</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ @Mad Doc<br /> That's kind of the opposite of what I had in mind when I started this thread but we are now aware of this scam so I guess it counts. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:28:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BloodofOrks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yup!<br /> <br /> It can even work fairly well within the US. Essentially, all you need to do is to send the Card far enough away that it's not easily travelled in a couple of days, and have a cast iron alibi (Clocking In/Out at work would work a treat) and the same applies.<br /> <br /> As long as you can categorically prove where you were at the time of the withdrawals, you *should* be laughing. And if not, then you still have the cash to pay it back.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:33:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mad Doc Grotsnik]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ hm<br /> i've had lot of calls for one time offers<br /> according to my emails, i've won some sort of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> lottery 34 times, for hundred of millions of euros<br /> I may be eligible to win the Australian lottery several times over.<br /> And boy, have i got some interesting messages from people looking for a trustworth business partner to help them with some startup cash. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:34:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ greenskin lynn]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The scam thread</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The only scam I ever fell for was the door-to-door magazine subscriptions for so-called college students. I went for it, because it was only ten dollars. I wrote the guy a check, never got my magazines and when the canceled check came back, it had been altered to make it forty dollars. I took it to my bank because not only were the changes obvious, I have checks that make carbon copies so I pointed out the original amount. The next year, the same guy came to my door again, and I told him that I was calling 911 to report him. That sucker ran like hell was on his heels! He has not come back since. I get e-mails about stuff like the lottery and car warranty scams all the time, and they go straight to oblivion. I'm too far down on the economic ladder to be a target for the really high-dollar scams. Yippee... <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 15 Apr 2009 01:34:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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