<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? FNP and opening up the Nobs to all those weapons that aren't STR 8 AP2? or would I be better off just spending the points elsewhere?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/666766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/666766.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? BoLS...). The different types of saves and the 2 wounds and the one shot ammo makes it pretty uncertain. But it is a chance, around 20% first shot, a bit less next shot, if I recall correctly. And depending on what else you plan to shoot at the nobz with it might be worth the chance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667048.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667048.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667156.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers?
asugradinwa wrote:It can take him out. Only problem is it takes a min. of two turns thanks to the 2 wounds a painboy has.


A vindicates Turbo-Penetrator round does two wounds, so would kill a painboy outright. The vindicates sniper rifle is also AP2 so ignores FNP.

But you still have to hit and it will still get a 5+ cover/inv save and you only get one chance to use the special ammo (honestly, what sniper would only 3 special bullets).

For DH its probably better to hit them with incinerators and then charge them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667182.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667182.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers?
Regwon wrote:
asugradinwa wrote:It can take him out. Only problem is it takes a min. of two turns thanks to the 2 wounds a painboy has.


A vindicates Turbo-Penetrator round does two wounds, so would kill a painboy outright. The vindicates sniper rifle is also AP2 so ignores FNP.

But you still have to hit and it will still get a 5+ cover/inv save and you only get one chance to use the special ammo (honestly, what sniper would only 3 special bullets).

For DH its probably better to hit them with incinerators and then charge them.


AP2 shots ignore FNP?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667195.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667195.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667213.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers?
SsevenN wrote:
AP2 shots ignore FNP?


Yes. It's clearly stated in the USR. FNP is negated by Ap1, Ap2 and other weapons that ignore armor saves like power weapons and fists. There's a thread in YMDC that discusses it in more detail. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667215.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667379.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667379.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667428.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667428.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/667662.page GMT Re:Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? TBH, 110 points can get a lot of other more useful things. Also I doubt a Vindicare will have much (if any) psychological impact.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/668600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/668600.page GMT Re:Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/668603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/668603.page GMT Vindicare vs. Nob Bikers? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/669301.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/236575/669301.page GMT