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				<title>Strategies for Playing Against a Dwarf/Empire Gun Line</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I tend to play against Dwarfs and Empire alot. In a 2000 pt game I'm usually up against a long line of Organ Guns, Great Cannons, Hellfire Guns,Thunderers, Crossbowmen, etc which chews up my close combat oriented Daemon army before I can make it to the other side of the board. To be fair, I run a fun Daemon list (nothing too crazy, no Kairos the Fatewaever or anything broken like that). I can usually beat most close combat oriented armies, and I have a few resilient units like plaguebearers which can make it into combat mostly intact but without alot of shooting or a crazy magic heavy list it feels like I'm just limited to charging forward hoping enough of my army makes it into combat before kicking the bucket. Are there some alternate strategies I'm missing for taking on lots of shooting with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> orient army?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:31:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bdub77]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Strategies for Playing Against a Dwarf/Empire Gun Line</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ A dwarf and an Empire gunline are entirely different animals.  They need to be approached totally differently. Either could be the subject of a deep post.<br /> <br /> In general, though, Khorne units and Slaanesh units are across the field in 2 turns.  Just play those and they only have one or two turns to shoot you up.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:37:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40kenthusiast]]></author>
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				<title>Strategies for Playing Against a Dwarf/Empire Gun Line</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I tend to piss off dwarf players by standing around all game and rushing into all the table quarters on the last turn for a +200 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VP</span>.  Usually they wont move because they are waiting for you to get into firing range and by the time they figure out you wont do that it's too late.  The only things that can hit you are cannons and bolts and they don't hurt all that much unless you have big things. This is what I do instead of refusing to play against a boring gun line.  Sooner or later they change their tactics....and this doesn't work against Empire.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:32:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bat Manuel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ honestly, There isn't much you can do. I suggest loading up on Flesh Hounds, and Bloodcrushers. Get some flying units in there. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:11:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cryonicleech]]></author>
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				<title>Strategies for Playing Against a Dwarf/Empire Gun Line</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ slanesh blocks eat gunlines for breakfast.<br /> if he goes first first turn minimal damage from &gt;24 in<br /> you move forward 12 in<br /> he shoots and hurts stuff<br /> you move forward<br /> you force 4 units to charge your guys]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:11:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cypher]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Strategies for Playing Against a Dwarf/Empire Gun Line</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I dunno, Cypher, I think both gunlines have stuff to counter that, Thorek for the dwarves, Stanks and Popemobile for the Empire.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:37:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ 40kenthusiast]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thorek is only D3 units per turn and dual stank + pope costs more than 4 units of deaomonettes + hearlds i believe (my empire points are rusty)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:23:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cypher]]></author>
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