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Kor'sarro Khan
-Moondrakken

Troop-
Space Marine Bike Squad x5
-Flamer x2
-PF
-Attack Bike w/ MM

Troop-
Space Marine Bike Squad x5
-Flamer x2
-PF
-Attack Bike w/ MM

Fast Attack-
Assault Squad x10
-Flamer x2
-PF

Fast Attack-
Assault Squad x10
-Flamer x2
-PF

Fast Attack-
Assault Squad x10
-Flamer x2
-PF

Heavy Support-
Vindicator
-Extra Armor
-Siege Shield]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/678757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/678757.page GMT
you are also a little light on troop squads.

I would suggest getting rid of the vindicator and an assault squad for another troop squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/678792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/678792.page GMT PF's and MM attack bikes in a unit with flamers seems...silly? youre mixing anti horde and anti troop.

Id get the attack bikes in as a separate FA choice, meaning losing an ass squad, or give them HVB's

Actually, you already have flamers is the ass squads, maybe meltas on the bikes?

One of the strengths of the bike list is the FNP command bike squad, all can take spec weapons. can dump a lot of points into one super effective unit.

But thats just me...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679392.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679392.page GMT
Note if you are going to take khan then you need to only take bikes that the point of having him. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679471.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679471.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679554.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679554.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679572.page GMT

1. On my turn, I charge.

2. My opponent and I resolve combat.

3. On my opponents turn, during his assault phase, we resolve combat again.

4. After resolving combat, before my turn, I perform the 'hit and run' part to
break combat.

5. I repeat 1 through 4]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679671.page GMT 4x Storm Shields
4x Meltas
2x Lightning Claw
2x Power Fist
Throw in a banner and go nuts. The meltas are optional. I use them because I also have He'stan in my list (I run my own chapter with the two SCs acting as 'counts-as').

I agree with replacing your assault squads with bike squads. Mixing flamers and multi-meltas in a single squad is going to reduce your effectiveness as a whole. Having the attack bike in your bike squads is nice for wound allocation purposes, but if you want to keep the flamers, you'd be better off with another bike - then put in a separate attack bike squad with the multi-meltas.

The Vindicator does seem out of place, as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/679949.page GMT MM on the attack bikes, and you have 1 vindicator that is just kind of out of place. If you want to do a bike list you kind of have to go all out with them (esp with taking Khan) because they are a lower model count list that can be killed by ID and AP 1-3 weapons.

So lets start by dropping all the stuff that isnt a bike marine + all their war gear cept the PFs. We will add it back bit by bit.

3 well geared assault squads - 705 (!!!!)
1 vindi - 140
4 flamers and 2 MM - 40

885 points to work with

First make both bike squads the full 8 bikes + attack bike ( 125 points)
Seccond take a 3rd 9 man bike squad w/ PF and attack bike (280 points)

Now we kit out the bike squads. Depending on what people in your area play you can either make 1 squad anti-armor, 2 antir horde or vica versa. The set ups are horde HB, 2x flamer and armor is MM, 2x melta. This is totally up to you and what you are playing against. But prety much no matter what you are playing I would take 2 of one type and 1 of the other. For math sake lets go with 2 AA and 1 AH so 70 points there.

Next lets get a melee power house unit to help your bikes rip stuff to shreds in assault. Khan is a captain so he can take a command squad. Command squad + champion + PF + 1 SS = 260. It means you have 465 points in this one unit but it means your other 3 squads are not gettign shot at...and with the CS and 1 SS its is a harder unit to kill.

With the last points I would grab a 3 man attack bike squad set up for what ever you are fighting 2 HB, 1 MM for AH or 2 MM, 1 HB for AA. You want to put 1 gear differently so you can do a little bit of wound alocation to keep the 2 impotant ones alive for 1 extra wound.

So the list would be this:

HQ
Khan on bike
command squad on bikes w/ champion, PF, SS

Troops
2x 8 man bike squad w/ melta x2, PF, attack bike w/ MM
8 man bike squad w/ flamer, PF, Attack bike w/ HB

Fast Attack
3 man attack bike squad w/ 2 HB, 1MM

1500 points

The other option if you don't like the command squad is another 8 man bike squad w/ 2 melta, and attack bike w/ HB but no PF.

Hope this wall of text helps



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You got Korso Khan he's begging for a retinue of a command squad.

Khan 205

Command Squad 4 P.W. 265

Troops

Get rid of those mixed squads of P.F. and FLamers actually dump the P. F. altogether

Go with

9+ H.B. Attack Bike 2 Meltas ; Lighting Claw ; Melta Bomb

Tactical Squad w/ Razorback; multimelta; combimelta, melta

Fast Attack

2 MultiMelta Attack Bikes

Assault Squad w/ 2 Flamers , P.F.

Assault Squad w/ 2 Flamers , P.F.


You Can now Combat Squad ; into 4 scoring Troops; Your MultiMelta Attack Bikes can outflank on their own along with Assault troops.

You Have Khan with a Brutal H t H squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/680075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/680075.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/680564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/680564.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/680720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/237406/680720.page GMT