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				<title>Gretchen?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ive heard that gretchen really have no use anymore due to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> taking their covering rule out of the game. However, due to the new rules its the same thing except that you dont remove a gretchen so why dont people take them anymore for shielding their army?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:39:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Specter113]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i allways take 40 (2 units of 20)<br /> they work great and have plenty of uses, mainly for random cover, tarpitting units (and actually winning some of the fights)<br /> and thier shooting has some use due to being BS3 instead of the basic BS2 of orks.<br /> ill never use a list without them.<br /> also, they work for mine clearence aswell.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:42:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Gretchen?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What kind of army do you use? That has them incorporated?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:51:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Specter113]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i will use them in any build, but usually its with 80+ boyz, lootas and trukk units.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:58:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Many people see them as useless when you can get a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> mekk for cover.  However I use them and enjoy having them, primairly because my opponents ignore them.  They give you a 4+ cover for intervening models but then again they can provide cover to the enemy now as well.  <br /> <br /> I have seen them take down the nightbringer before.  But what is really fun is to have your cover save in range of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> mekk so your cover save gets a 5+ coversave.<br /> <br /> If you want to run them I would suggest a footslogging list or a semi-mech list.  They really have no place in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(234);'>KoS</span> list as you need more boyz.  Or go crazy with them and run an all grot army with 9 kans and 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Mekks for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Apr 2009 22:59:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<title>Gretchen?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It is rumored that the coming Planetstrike expansion for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> will contain a lot of options for static defenses such as minefields. So hopefully the wonderful mine clearance rules will see more use this summer.<br /> <br /> I like gretchins because they are cute, and they cost so little so I can indulge myself on them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:56:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mellon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mellon wrote:</cite>It is rumored that the coming Planetstrike expansion for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> will contain a lot of options for static defenses such as minefields. So hopefully the wonderful mine clearance rules will see more use this summer.<br /> <br /> I like gretchins because they are cute, and they cost so little so I can indulge myself on them.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would hope so.  But I have to agree, the price you can get them is great - expecially if you've always wanted an all grot army, although "cute" is not the word I would use...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 19 of them with a runtherda and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(164);'>SAG</span>. Nasty.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:41:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mekboy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've never used them simply because they're too fiddly, I don't like having to move 60+ models in one movement phase!<br /> <br /> Thats why my boyz are on bikes!!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:43:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CaptainRavenclaw]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use them for rear echelon objective holders and picket line troops to block off board edges when my opponent uses Outflanking. <br /> <br /> By lining the board edge I can force my opponent up away from units like Lootas and keep the away from my shooty bits for a turn or two. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:47:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Major Malfunction]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Gretchen?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've used grots to babysit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(164);'>SAGs</span> and for cover on the move for my boyz. I've never used them without a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> in the area cause they will just die. I've even been able to pull out some wins with them holding objectives. They're fun and so cheap that its not really a loss if they die so long as theyve distracted fire from your boyz. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:48:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ indigo_jones]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've not used grots yet, but can see uses for them.<br /> So cheap, you can throw a few units in front of Da Boyz for cover, hold a home objective, shield shooty units from assault, hide a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(164);'>SAG</span> or weirdboy ... and much, much more!<br /> <br /> Personally I use them as decoration on my wagons <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:59:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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