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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all, I'm thinking about building a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army with Fabius Bile. I wish I could get some advices from you guys. This is something i could go on tournament but also for fun games. I know Fabius is not the most competitive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> option but I find it a lot of fun! I don't know much about the Fabius' fluff, so tell me if I'm going wrong somewhere  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0">  I guess i wanna go with Nurgle Icons, S5/T5 sounds awesome!<br /> <br /> <br /> <u><b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 335</b></u><br /> <br /> <b>Fabius Bile</b> (160)<br /> <br /> <i>Well, this guy is a must</i><br /> <br /> <b>Daemon Prince</b> (175)<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Wings, Warptime<br /> <br /> <i>I guess <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> is the best option for second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>. Warptime OK?</i><br /> <br /> <u><b>ELITES: 250</b></u><br /> <br /> <b>Dreadnought </b>(125)<br /> - Extra Armour <br /> - Plasma Cannon<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> w/ Heavy Flamer<br /> <br /> <b>Dreadnought</b> (125)<br /> - Extra Armour <br /> - Plasma Cannon<br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> w/ Heavy Flamer<br /> <br /> <i>I'm not sure about these guys but they would be great for conversion reasons  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> I know Chaos Drednoughts tend to go wild every now and then... I would keep these guys together so they can shoot each other... Should i use some other weapons?</i><br /> <br /> <u><b>TROOPS: 942</b></u><br /> <br /> <b>10 x Chaos Space Marines</b> (325)<br /> - Enchanted Warriors <br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> - Aspiring Champion  w/ Power Fist <br /> - 2 x Meltagun <br /> - Rhino <br /> <br /> <b>10 x Chaos Space Marines</b> (325)<br /> Enchanted Warriors <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> <br /> Aspiring Champion w/ Power Weapon <br /> 2 x Plasma Gun <br /> Rhino <br /> <br /> <b>9 x Chaos Space Marines</b> (292)<br /> Enchanted Warriors<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> <br /> Aspiring Champion w/ Power Fist<br /> 1 x Flamer<br /> Rhino<br /> <br /> <i>Lots of enchanted marines. I want my rhinos full if I gonna lose couple of marines on enchanted rolls. Different weapons for different objects. Fabilus goes in the last rhino. One champion has a power weapon cause I have no more points. Should i give them all Plasma Pistols? What about other special weapons?</i> <br /> <br /> <u><b>HEAVY SUPPORT: 470</b></u><br /> <br /> <b>Obliterator </b>(75)<br /> <br /> <b>2 x Obliterator </b>(150)<br /> <br /> <i>Oblis rocks, but i dont have any personal icons, so deep strike gets harder... I guess I can't get any personal icons for my troops?</i><br /> <br /> <b>7 x Havoc</b> (245)<br /> - 4 x Lascannon<br /> <br /> <i>I'm not sure about these guys, quite expensive squad, but i like the fact that i have some long range weaponry to destroy tanks. Though If you have better ideas let me know!</i><br /> <br /> <br /> SO tell me what you think. What should I change? This is now 1997 points and I think tournament armies are something like 1500/1750? After I get this army list right I'll make a blog about building this army! (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>btw</span>. this is my first post on DAKKA DAKKA  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ) Thanks!]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ kojo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:CSM: Fabilus Bile's Forces</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not sure about havocs - they're too expensive... Maybe you could swap them for one obliterator (and join him to single one) and defiler plus add another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> with flamer to the last squad <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Surely you'll have a lot of fun with those 2 dreadnoughts... good luck <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:33:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ daniello_s]]></author>
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				<title>Re:CSM: Fabilus Bile's Forces</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>daniello_s wrote:</cite>I'm not sure about havocs - they're too expensive... Maybe you could swap them for one obliterator (and join him to single one) and defiler plus add another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> with flamer to the last squad <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Surely you'll have a lot of fun with those 2 dreadnoughts... good luck <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I need 10 Chaos Marines if I want a second flamer and I need room for Fabius... ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:56:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ kojo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd switch out the dread and the havok squad for more obliterators.<br /> <br /> I also don't know about the demon prince, the general thought on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> is that one will die FAST, two will actually get to do something.<br /> <br /> another thought with this army is to ditch the dreads, oblits, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>dp</span>, and lead all your enchanted marines into lanr raiders, so that they can charge out of them on the second turn.<br /> <br /> Also you want to maximize the potential of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 5, so I would go for khorne rather than nurgle, but that's me.<br /> <br /> 40 ish <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 5 attacks pouring out of each <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> on the second turn sounds good to me!  that will annihilate horde ork armies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:50:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sushicaddy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, Bile fights like a Grot.<br /> Havocs are not a must have. Lascannons lost an edge in the new edition due to cover saves and modified armor penetration table.<br /> I'd replace them by Obliterators or a Defiler. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:10:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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