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				<description><![CDATA[ Cypher and the Fallen Angels seem to have some cool fluff.<br /> <br /> I am under the impression very few people use Cypher and that is why I ask the following question.<br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> Does anyone play a fluffy and competitive Fallen Angels list surrounding Cypher as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>?<br /> <br /> If you do, please show it off and provide pics if you have them  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Deuce11]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Is there still even rules for Cypher?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Cypher and the Fallen Angels</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ good point<br /> <br /> there are not any rules in the current C: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> and obviously not in the C: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> so......<br /> <br /> no i guess not. What is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> doing selling a $17 Cypher mini for then?!<br /> <br /> Well I guess the topic stands now as: does anyone run a Fallen Angels army? One with a 'counts as' Cypher is preferable... <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There are rules for Cypher in the 1999 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> codex, but I don't think there's anything after that.  That would go a long way to explaining why no one uses the poor guy.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 03:50:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ solkan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There are a few choices you can pick from to represent Cypher such as a Chaos Lord with mark of undivided. I would kit him with a deamon weapon and a plasma pistol. You could take a squad of Chosen to represent his Fallen retinue. Seeing that there are never a lot of Fallen in any one place you have to decide how best to go about fielding the rest of your army. Cypher and his retinue used to be an option for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> and that is where I see him best fitting haven inflitrated a local PDF. Nowadays you pretty much have to go all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 04:13:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Cypher and the Fallen Angels</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ For my chaos army I am making a squad of 10 Fallen as chosen.  Each individual will be unique in appearence as well, they are fallen, so they should be.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 04:18:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Casper]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Cypher and the Fallen Angels</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Dark angels codex says that cypher appears with a whole bunch of fallen but he never fights. If you are making a fluff army, then cypher shouldnt fight. Oh and he can't get captured or killed. Seems like a useless model to me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 04:38:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Knight Luke]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sounds good to me. The Fallen are the true sons of the Lion afterall.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It doesn't say he never fights, just that he never unsheaths the sword that he always carries on his back.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 05:19:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ratbarf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes, itsn't it the legendary broken sword of Johnson? Should he finally complete his quest and reforge the sword, he'll bring it back to The Rock and that crazy dude... the one who betrayed Johnson.. you know who I'm talking about, will lead them to where Johnson is and awaken him and start the Star Child Prophecy (which isn't cannon, so is any of this cannon anymore?).<br /> <br /> Anywho, the sword is broken, so there really isn't anyway to represent him with a Chaos Lord. I suppose you could use a Chaos Sorcerer with Doombolt (failing the test could count as his pistol overheating). Blast, we need less of Lucius the Eternally Useless and more renegade legends.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 10:44:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DarkHound]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just say he picked up another sword at the cosmic K-Mart.<br /> <br /> G]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 3 May 2009 13:31:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Black Blow Fly]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Ratbarf wrote:</cite>It doesn't say he never fights, just that he never unsheaths the sword that he always carries on his back.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You ever try to swing at someone w/ a broken sword?<br /> <br /> It's still unknown as to whether it is indeed the Lion sword or not. We still don't know.<br /> <br /> -J.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 May 2009 05:03:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Alazahr]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ First off..... Lion <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>El</span> Johnsons sword was stated to be the only thing capable of penetrating the golden throne. Second off..... Cypher is on a course not to the rock, but to Terra..... and since 2+2=4 Cypher plans on killing the Emporer, using Lion <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>El</span>'s Sword and releasing the Emporer's spirit so that he can ascend to godhood. And the Emporer seems to be cool with this, as he seems to be helping Cypher each step of the way.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 May 2009 07:49:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Angron]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Angron wrote:</cite>Cypher plans on killing the Emporer...</div></blockquote>Boy's about 10,000 years too late.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 May 2009 10:59:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Breotan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Cypher and the Fallen Angels</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Unfortunatly for the Emporer, his soul is still trapped to his body, and so he needs that severed to become a god. Anyways, here's two lists for the Fallen. The first one is a more conventional Fallen army, where as the second one better represents the fact that they're 10,000 years old and are tough as nails to kill.<br /> <br /> Cypher (Chaos Sorceror)-140<br /> -Force Weapon, Plasma Pistol, Guiding Hand of the Emporer (Warptime)<br /> <br /> 3 Terminators-105<br /> -3 Combi-Weapons<br /> <br /> 3 Terminators-105<br /> -3 Combi-Weapons<br /> <br /> 10 Fallen (Chaos Space Marines)-255<br /> -2 Plasmaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> 10 Fallen (Chaos Space Marines)-255<br /> -2 Plasmaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> 10 Fallen (Chaos Space Marines)-255<br /> -2 Plasmaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> 10 Fallen (Chaos Havocs)-230<br /> -4 Missile Launchers<br /> <br /> 10 Fallen (Chaos Havocs)-230<br /> -4 Missile Launchers<br /> <br /> 10 Fallen (Chaos Havocs)-230<br /> -4 Missile Launchers<br /> <br /> <br /> OR<br /> <br /> <br /> Cypher (Chaos Sorceror)-160<br /> -Force Weapon, Plasma Pistol, Guiding Hand of the Emporer (Warptime), Mark of Nurgle<br /> <br /> 8 Fallen (Plague Marnes)-279<br /> -2 Meltaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> <br /> 8 Fallen (Plague Marnes)-279<br /> -2 Meltaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> <br /> 8 Fallen (Plague Marnes)-279<br /> -2 Meltaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> <br /> 8 Fallen (Plague Marnes)-279<br /> -2 Meltaguns<br /> Sergeant<br /> -Powerfist<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> 8 Fallen (Chaos Havocs)-285<br /> -4 Missile Launchers, Icon of Nurgle<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight<br /> <br /> 8 Fallen (Chaos Havocs)-285<br /> -4 Missile Launchers, Icon of Nurgle<br /> Rhino<br /> -Smoke Launchers, Searchlight]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 4 May 2009 16:02:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Angron]]></author>
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