Green Blow Fly wrote:before I ask my one allotted question of the day I would like to preface the query with an explanation of how I interpret rules. I am an advocate of RAW but there are times when it just breaks down and does not work. I like to play the rules such that my opponents know I try to be fair and don't look for any unintended advantages. If the RAW interpretation is iron clad I will stick with it though. I like to ask questions in this forum due to high quality feedback. I think that a lot of top gamers come here seeking advice and that is my personal stamp of approval.

KaloranSLC wrote:First question: I would say that the two qualifiers are mutually exclusive. I do not have a codex, however, and can only base that opinion on the information you provided.
Reasoning: The dangerous terrain test appears to be part of disembarking. If the model could not disembark, it would not be making the test, and thus would cause the entire squad to be destroyed.

Gwar! wrote:

KaloranSLC wrote:First question: I would say that the two qualifiers are mutually exclusive. I do not have a codex, however, and can only base that opinion on the information you provided.
Reasoning: The dangerous terrain test appears to be part of disembarking. If the model could not disembark, it would not be making the test, and thus would cause the entire squad to be destroyed.

Thats not how it works. What happens is, you "Deep Strike" along its flight path. If you hit, you're fine. If you Scatter and land fine, you then take a Dangerous Terrain test for each model. If you Deep Strike Mishap then you auto destroy rather than rolling on the table.

Green Blow Fly wrote:My natural inclination is that if a model fails it's DT test then the entire squad counts as destroyed. Grav chute can be very powerful for grabbing or contesting objectives late in the game so I see this interpretation as a balance but also very strict. That is why I prefaced my query with the blah blah blah... I want other posters to know where I stand in general when it comes to Interpretating the rules. Personally I am planning to use grav chutes and want to hash this all out in advance. That's how I roll.

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Green Blow Fly wrote:those are excellent points Gwar ! . Thank you for the feedback. I value your opinion. Now I will wait to see what others have to say. The basis for my current interpretation is that if a model fails it's DT test then it (the guardsman) was unable to successfully deploy and the entire squad counts as destroyed. As I have said this just sounds too darn restrictive though... If your squad is composed of six or more models then the basic statistics tell us at least one will fail the DT test so why even bother. This is where going with a RAI interpretation can help to shed some useful insight how the rule should actually be interpreted. I don't mean to come across as a chod sitting on the fence looking to see which way the wind blows by any means, I just want to get this fully ironed out and over with before I start playing the new army.

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Green Blow Fly wrote:I am not stupid Gwar ! . I am prepping for the inevitable and using the worst case analysis. I would think someone like yourself could see the merit behind this philosophy. Forewarned is forearmed... At least in my neck of the woods so to speak.

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