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				<title>Zombie Dragons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Recently I've been considering a zombie dragon mounted by a combat oriented vampire lord for 3000 point games.<br /> <br /> I was thinking of <br /> <br /> Vampire Lord 205<br /> Red Fury, Infinite Hatred 75<br /> Walach's Bloody Hauberk, Blood Drinker, Enchanted Shield 100 <br /> Zombie Dragon 275<br /> Total = 655<br /> <br /> Adding to my already 2250 points (still slightly in the works) I have enough to add another squad of ghouls with a ghast. The rest of the list would be very magic focused and I think at 3000 pts it will be a big target for everything so I can let the rest of the army do it's thing without being rushed down. Should I increase the Vamp lord's magic level for 50 pts just for the extra dispel dice and the few extra PD he could use to cast IoN?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 9 May 2009 01:45:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Typeline]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ At 3000 points it's fine as long as it wont be your general.  At any lower point level it's one lucky shot or spell and your army will crumble.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 9 May 2009 06:38:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bat Manuel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Typeline wrote:</cite><br /> Vampire Lord 205<br /> Red Fury, Infinite Hatred 75<br /> Walach's Bloody Hauberk, Blood Drinker, Enchanted Shield 100 <br /> Zombie Dragon 275<br /> Total = 655<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I had a talk with some people at my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> about this build and some questions have come up.<br /> <br /> Someone was saying that the zombie dragon mount will benefit from infinite hatred. I don't think this sounds right, can anyone clarify?<br /> <br /> Also there was a debate about the armor save the lord would have. This is how it broke down, 4+ from Hauberk, 5+ from shield (+2), +1 for sword+shield, +2 for mounted on barbed mount (from scaly skin) for a save of -1. Now this didn't sound right to me either it should be 1+ right? Hauberk is 4, +1 from shield, +1 from sword+shield, +1 mounted. Which is right +1 or -1?<br /> <br /> And I thought that the Blood Drinker could give wounds back to the Zombie Dragon but one person said he was quite certain that it's only the vampire himself or a 'unit' he is with. So can someone help with that one?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2009 00:16:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Typeline]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can't take the Enchanted Shield with Walach's Bloody Hauberk as you can only have one piece of magic armor on any given character.<br /> <br /> Also, monsters don't grant the rider an armor save bonus and the shield bonus only applies to models on foot.  Your vampire would have the 4+ save from the Hauberk with no additional bonuses.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2009 00:21:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dogma]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>dogma wrote:</cite>You can't take the Enchanted Shield with Walach's Bloody Hauberk as you can only have one piece of magic armor on any given character.<br /> <br /> Also, monsters don't grant the rider an armor save bonus and the shield bonus only applies to models on foot.  Your vampire would have the 4+ save from the Hauberk with no additional bonuses.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I just borrowed the main fantasy rulebook. Oh well. Guess it becomes a little cheaper and slightly better. I just don't trust a 4+ followed by a 5+ though. <br /> <br /> Vampire Lord 205<br /> Red Fury, Infinite Hatred 75<br /> Blood Drinker, The Flayed Hauberk 65<br /> Zombie Dragon 275<br /> Total = 620]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2009 01:37:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Typeline]]></author>
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				<title>Zombie Dragons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Personally, I wouldn't bother with Blood Drinker.  When you put your general on a dragon you want him to hit as hard as possible in order to ensure that he can break the enemy in one round.  Give him the auto-hit lance, or the balefire spike instead.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2009 03:01:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ dogma]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>dogma wrote:</cite>Personally, I wouldn't bother with Blood Drinker.  When you put your general on a dragon you want him to hit as hard as possible in order to ensure that he can break the enemy in one round.  Give him the auto-hit lance, or the balefire spike instead.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Hew won't be the general. But I guess if he has the Dread Lance we wouldn't need infinite hatred either.<br /> <br /> Vampire Lord 205<br /> Red Fury 50<br /> Dread Lance, The Flayed Hauberk 85<br /> Zombie Dragon 275<br /> Total = 615<br /> <br /> Edit: This means the lord gets 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 7 attacks on the charge that wound on a 2+ then another number of attacks for each unsaved wound. Isn't there something special about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 7 though?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2009 03:24:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Typeline]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Zombie Dragons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Edit: This means the lord gets 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 7 attacks on the charge that wound on a 2+ then another number of attacks for each unsaved wound. Isn't there something special about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 7 though?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm assuming you're thinking of chariot busting.  Any chariot that takes a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 7 (or greater) wound is destroyed outright.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(314);'>RZ</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 May 2009 03:44:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Red_Zeke]]></author>
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