http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net So i decided t go with the old kan screen instead.

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Big Mek /// Kustom forcefield
Big Mek /// Kustom forcefield



ELITE

10 Burna boyz



TROOP

30 Boyz /// (slugga & choppa) Nob, Bosspole, Klaw
30 Boyz /// (slugga & choppa) Nob, Bosspole, Klaw
30 Boyz /// (shoota) Nob, Bosspole, Klaw, 3 Big shootas
29 gretchin /// 2 Runtherds
Deff dread /// Skorcha x2, grot riggers
Deff dread /// Skorcha x2, grot riggers



FAST

3 Deffkoptas /// TL rokkitz



HEAVY

3 Killer kanz /// Kustom mega blastas
3 Killer Kanz /// Grotzookas
3 Killer Kanz /// Grotzookas



1,852 Points




Wasnt too sure about the burna boyz and the koptas, im happy with everything else.
Took the burnas simply for some template clearing of small units, plus power weps against anything with decent armour.
The koptas were simply taken because i have 3, and they can act as some mobile anti armour.

Kan weapons: 6 with Grotzookas should be enough to cause plenty of damage.
The mega blasters were taken over rokkitz to act as anti tank and also for any termies / bikernobz i might have to fight.

Got the usual 2 Meks with KFF's to make sure i dont loose too much while slogging over the table.

2 Deff Dreadz should work as part of the kan screen, but they are a little bit more stable, and with skorchas they can help thin out infantry and hunt tanks (if they live that long)



Everything else was taken simply to fill out the army and make sure i have enough troops.

C&C is welcome as i need to make sure this list will work to a good standard.



Note: Kanz and Dreadz stay no matter what, love them to death and they have allways done me well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/712939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/712939.page GMT
i doubt i posted a perfect list lol]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713249.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713249.page GMT imo burnas are very COOL!!
but very expensive, and with only 10 they will be hauling for the board edge in no time.

i very much dislike my kopptas they have never performed well for me.

i use kommandos w/ snikkrot and 20 man squad of stormboys they have been much better for me.

hope any of it helps gl with them ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713420.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713420.page GMT

The burnas will either get into combat (or start burning stuff) which is allways good.
or they will attract a fair bit of fire, which is even better.

the koptas may be removed soon
the points will possibly be used to upgrade units or add random stuff.

kommandos were on my origional list, but with snik and burnas they tend to eat away at points.
with no armour they are pretty much doomed.


ive never had luck with storms, and at double the points of a boy i wont buy em
rather get a trukk with red paint for 12 boyz to save on points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713425.page GMT
out of curiosity your big meks are you attaching them to the boys units ? if not how are you keeping them alive]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713467.page GMT if koptas work well i may remove burnas, add 2 more koptas and give them a big bomm (allways fun against guard)

gretchin will be used to hold an objective.
no one will shoot them while getting charged by boyz.
they are cheap and no one cares if they die lol.

meks will be with a unit of slugga boyz and a unit of shoota boyz to stop them getting picked on too much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713478.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713478.page GMT
i run 2 meks, the exact same boy set up 6 kans 1 dread snikkrot and stormboyz.


from what i have found in almost every game placing the kans and dread in front of the tide almost GUARANTEES the boys make it to CC.

most players just cant get past the visual effect of all that armor, and dont focus on the boys.

its a very fun style of list to play

please let me know how the extra kans and dread work for you.



my dread almost never makes it to CC but its cheap, and if they are shooting the dread thats more boys alive!!


also be aware of placing your boys so close to the kans/dreads that if your opponent gets the dreaded d6 roll of explosion it could mean doom to mobs.

hope it helps

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713548.page GMT
The Koptas will be much more of a threat with Buzzsaws (turn 1 charge with Buzzsaws is scary).

IMO the Kans and Dreads will be better off with TL Rokkits as their guns as opposed to anything else they can take.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713588.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713588.page GMT TL rokkits, even if dread doubles up on one of his wpn choices its not TL.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713608.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/713608.page GMT i plan on keeping them away from kombat and making use of the TL rokkitz.

kanz and dreadz cant take TL rokkitz.

with a dreadz BS2 it will never hit a thing with them, hence why i have 2 skorchas on them instead, to make sure they can thin out units before running into combat.

grotzooka kanz are about the best anti infantry in the ork list.
great strength and a blast means they will be cutting units down pretty quickly.
KMD kanz are more for armour, with S8 AP2 they will do great against most things (including bikernobz)

my old list used to include 5 dreadz.
they did get alot of fire comming thier way, but they managed to shrug most of it off.
im hoping that with 11 walkers now people will focus alot more on them than anything else.

i would love to play a biker nob list now though
kanz can shoot then run into combat.
the DCCW means they will be hitting before the klawnobz, and with instant death it shouldnt take too much to kill them, may need to throw in a dread to help, but its worth it.

at range the KMB's will be hitting twice, wounding twice and causing instant death to anything with 4 or less toughness (this means i can be killing 2 bikernobz a turn)

only reason im going this way with my list is due to the tournaments.
people love taking bike spam, and with any luck this list should be able to counter that pretty well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714137.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714215.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714215.page GMT IG sentinels to be converted )

might make a few minor tweaks to the list (burnas gone etc etc)
but all in all this should work well.


against meq im interested to see how well the zooka kanz do compared to the KMB kanz.
if the KMB's do better then ill need to free up points and take 6 KMB's ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714217.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714217.page GMT
However, I do like your idea of Burnas. If you are worried about them, retool one of your Big Meks to include a Bosspole and have him join the Burnas.

Let us know how it works out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714322.page GMT

it will be for tourney play once i finally get everything brought and painted (currently only have arouns 1k of this list)

ive got a cheeky way to help with movement.
making some movement trays, not 100% how ill do these yet, but ill find a way to make moving 30 boyz a time alot quicker.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/239889/714327.page GMT